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Why did the Dáil vote against a European debt conference?

Here’s everything you need to know about what’s happening in Irish politics right now…

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Debt.

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Yesterday the European Central Bank (ECB) announced it will no longer allow Greek banks to use Government debt as collateral for loans, depriving them of a key source of much-needed cash.

The news came around the same time a Technical Group Motion calling for a European debt conference was defeated by 72 votes to 42 in the Dáil. Many Irish onlookers had hoped that if Greece was able to renegotiate the terms of its €240-billion EU-IMF bailout, Ireland might be able to do something similar.

The ECB’s move is seen as the institution taking a hardline stance on Syriza’s anti-austerity rhetoric. Greek stocks fell by 9% in early trading this morning.

Independent TD Catherine Murphy tabled the debt conference motion, which was debated in the Dáil on Tuesday and Wednesday nights.

Murphy said that Greece paid €8 billion to service debts of €315 billion in 2014, while Ireland paid €7.5 billion to service debts of €214 billion, noting: “It cost us almost as much to service €100 billion less.”

Who, in other words, gets the best deal from its international lenders: good Ireland or bad Greece?

Speaking in the Dáil on Tuesday night, Finance Minister Michael Noonan said the Government “has made major inroads into making our debt more affordable and minimising its impact on the economy”.

International Monetary Fund Conferences Christine Lagarde, Managing Director of the International Monetary Fund, and Finance Minister Michael Noonan. Sasko Lazarov / Photocall Ireland Sasko Lazarov / Photocall Ireland / Photocall Ireland

Noonan rejected the suggestion there is a “lack of solidarity in the Union”, saying he wished Greece well as the country has “suffered much more than Ireland”. He said he had “not come across any proposal from the new Government on putting in place a debt conference”, noting that the country seems to agree with the stance that “a process of negotiation is always better than one of conflict”.

The motion was backed by several opposition TDs but was easily defeated in the end.

Taoiseach Enda Kenny is set to meet with the presidents of the European Council and European Commission in Brussels today, but is not expected to raise the issue of further debt concessions for Ireland.

Whether or not Syriza will make any headway on renegotiating Greece’s debt – and if this will have any impact on Ireland – remains to be seen.

The agenda

  • Tánaiste Joan Burton will be answering questions related to the Department of Social Protection at 9.30am. She’ll also be taking part in Leaders’ Questions at 12pm.
  • Professor Bill Black and Mario Nava will appear before the Banking Inquiry at 9.30am and 11.45am respectively – and it could get very interesting.
  • Officials from the Department of the Environment will be attending a meeting with the Public Accounts Committee to discuss water charges at 10am.
  • The Good Friday Agreement Committee will discuss cross-border transport infrastructure at 10.15am.
  • The Seanad will be debating a Bill that seeks to regulate lobbying at 1.15pm.
  • Enda Kenny is travelling to Brussels today to meet the President of the European Council, Donald Tusk, and the President of the European Commission, Jean Claude Juncker.

Inside Leinster House

Government TDs are becoming increasingly annoyed about the confusion surrounding water charges.

Fine Gael backbencher Andrew Doyle has said the information given to TDs and Senators needs to be clearer. On Monday, the Wicklow TD appeared on Tonight with Vincent Browne. He was quickly corrected by his fellow panellists when he said that people who missed that night’s deadline for Irish Water registration would not receive their €100 water conservation grant.

Doyle later told TheJournal.ie: “I was definitely unhappy that I seemed to be given the wrong impression about the water conservation grant,” adding that the Department needs to be “clearer in the dissemination of information“.

What the others are saying

  • Fianna Fáil is to allow a free vote on Clare Daly’s Bill calling for terminations to be provided in cases of fatal foetal abnormalities, according to the Irish Times.
  • Independent TD Michael Lowry has lodged a formal complaint about how the controversial ‘not bad looking‘ note he sent to Enda Kenny was made public, reports the Irish Examiner.
  • The same paper notes that Joan Burton has played down suggestions paid paternity leave could be introduced.
  • Foreign Affairs Minister Charlie Flanagan has warned of the risks faced by Ireland should the UK leave the EU, according to the Irish Independent

In case you missed it

  • Enda Kenny explained why former Justice Minister Alan Shatter was given information about the investigation into Garda malpractice before other TDs.
  • Micheál Martin accused the Government of ‘putting a price on people’s lives‘ by failing to make the expensive drug Soliris available. Later in the day, the HSE extended access to the drug.
  • Ahead of Clare Daly’s Bill calling for terminations to be permitted in cases of fatal foetal abnormalities (which will be debated tomorrow), TDs and Senators will hear from six families who had to travel to the UK for abortions.
  • Michael Healy-Rae spoke to us about what he thinks his father’s legacy will be.
  • Sinn Féin is going to launch an alternative schedule of events to commemorate the centenary of the 1916 Rising.
  • Joanne O’Riordan’s brother launched a Dáil bid in Cork North West.
  • The Taoiseach’s Department has spent more than half a million euro on photography since 2002.

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    Mute Sophie
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    Mar 23rd 2021, 9:34 PM

    “He has not offended since” maybe because he was caught and was probably being monitored??

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    Mute John Sheahan
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    Mar 23rd 2021, 9:36 PM

    One year he’ll be out. Judge Nolan strikes again.

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    Mute Paul Gorry
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    Mar 23rd 2021, 9:57 PM

    And to this day Paul begley is still taking therapy for being locked up by judge nolan for Importing garlic instead of apples. Even though he paid the revenue what was owed. Journal change headline to mature student.

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    Mute Tommy Roche
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    Mar 23rd 2021, 11:29 PM

    @Paul Gorry: Simplistic boIIox. He wasn’t jailed for importing garlic instead of apples. He was jailed for committing a multimillion euro fraud on the citizens/taxpayers of this State. If he couldn’t hack the punishment for his crime, that’s on him.

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    Mar 24th 2021, 12:24 AM

    @Tommy Roche: still got more time than this lad… and he employed people… bottom line is, don’t f*ck with the state’s money… if you do there will be no suspended sentence, anything else is fair game

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    Mute Mary Nugent
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    Mar 24th 2021, 1:43 AM

    @Paul Gorry: yeah so true. Sgt. Martin Nolan old scores for someone.

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    Mute Ger
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    Mar 24th 2021, 5:16 AM

    @Stephen Boland: he didnt get more time than this lad. He appealed his sentence and it was drastically reduced.

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    Mute EillieEs
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    Mar 24th 2021, 12:40 PM

    @Paul Gorry: he’s in therapy eight years after his release? At least his company is making €4K in profits weekly so he can well afford to pay for it.

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    Mute Alan Clarke
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    Mar 23rd 2021, 10:12 PM

    if this had happened in his own country it would be off with his king ding a ling and probably his head. Here we give him a year tops, probably out in 6 months and no deportation. We have enough numptys of our own without letting this one stay. And can someone in government please for the love of Christ remove this excuse for a judge, Martin Nolan, from his post. The man is unfit for the role.

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    Mute Barry Somers
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    Mar 24th 2021, 3:18 AM

    @Alan Clarke: so your suggestion is to murder people?

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    Mute Ger
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    Mar 24th 2021, 5:20 AM

    @Alan Clarke: he was given 16 months, he’ll get 25% remission which is 4 months off, so he’ll serve 12. Believe it or not that’s actually a decent sentence for this offence here. More often than not they get suspended sentences for first offences when distribution wasn’t involved.

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    Mute Raymond Kelly
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    Mar 23rd 2021, 9:34 PM

    Deport him as soon as he’s out

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    Mute paddy mulcahy
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    Mar 24th 2021, 5:58 AM

    @Raymond Kelly: deport him first i’d say!

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    Mute James Joseph
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    Mar 24th 2021, 6:18 PM

    @paddy mulcahy:
    “Deport him first”
    In other words reward him for his crime with a free plane ticket home??
    That is assuming that he is not Irish.

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    Mute Ruby
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    Mar 23rd 2021, 10:32 PM

    Why is he allowed stay here? I’m confused as to why he wouldn’t be kicked out to be honest?

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    Mute Ger
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    Mar 24th 2021, 5:20 AM

    @Ruby: let him serve his sentence then kick him out

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    Mute brendan o connell
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    Mar 23rd 2021, 10:26 PM

    No jail time deport back immediately and let the authories in his country know of antics. I bet he would rather do jail here.

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    Mar 23rd 2021, 10:31 PM

    @brendan o connell: ah shur all lives matter ya ya ya

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    Mar 23rd 2021, 11:52 PM

    @brendan o connell: we won’t do that because he could face the death penalty in Saudi ..we don’t like doing that… unless of course it’s the USA that asks us …

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    Mar 24th 2021, 5:27 AM

    @Terry Cahill: actually I’d be surprised if there are laws relating to accessing illegal material online in Saudi Arabia. There aren’t in many gulf countries.

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    Mute The Kev in Kevlar
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    Mar 23rd 2021, 10:25 PM

    Oh Nolan was judge? No surprise there. That lad needs to be removed and investigated. The lad that did this, who’s name reads like a chemical? Chemical castration.

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    Mute EillieEs
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    Mar 24th 2021, 1:00 PM

    @The Kev in Kevlar: he was investigated, it’s what led to his being charged and sentenced.

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    Mar 23rd 2021, 9:43 PM

    This shouldn’t be tolerated in any way and it’s justice served that he was convicted. However, I’d be very interested to know how he was caught. Do the Gardai conduct random searches of people’s search history from certain keywords. Surely GDPR rules prevent the monitoring of people’s search history?

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    Mute Kevin Feeney
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    Mar 23rd 2021, 9:47 PM

    @Dan the man: if you read carefully, the Germans told the Gardaí

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    Mar 23rd 2021, 9:50 PM

    @Kevin Feeney: yes I can read. How was Interpol aware of what some lad was searching for from an Irish IP address?

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    Mar 23rd 2021, 9:51 PM

    @Dan the man: Think it says it in the article mate. German police alerted Interpol who in turn alerted Gardai. I imagine (and hope) there are state organisations searching out these websites and servers and then monitoring people that access them.

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    Mar 23rd 2021, 9:53 PM

    @Ciaran Brady: it doesn’t mate. No mention of how the German’s were randomly looking at the search history of an Irish computer

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    Mute Geraldine D'Arcy
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    Mar 23rd 2021, 9:55 PM

    @Dan the man: the IP address identifies the source computer as based in Ireland.

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    Mar 23rd 2021, 9:57 PM

    @Geraldine D’Arcy: well done

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    Mute Ciaran Brady
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    Mar 23rd 2021, 10:01 PM

    @Dan the man: I was referring to how he was caught. Germans informed Interpol who then informed Gardai. The second part of my post is my opinion.
    I think we can be sure that German police weren’t looking at random search histories however.
    I’m no IT expert but surely it was a site or sites being monitored in order to capture the IP addresses of people accessing. Again, thats just my guess/opinion.

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    Mute Thomas Murphy
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    Mar 23rd 2021, 10:17 PM

    @Dan the man: looking for a way to.covwr your tracks?

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    Mute Mary O'Carroll
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    Mar 23rd 2021, 10:54 PM

    @Dan the man: They were probably monitoring German citizens’ activities on particular sites and came across lots of IP addresses in other EU member states and notified the other police forces…..that or they are actively tracking these perverted sites with a view to closing them down.

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    Mar 23rd 2021, 11:01 PM

    @Dan the man: Sounds like you could be in bother Danno, ya nonce !

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    Mar 23rd 2021, 11:22 PM

    @Dan the man: You’re very interested in finding out how to avoid getting caught, aren’t you?

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    Mar 23rd 2021, 11:45 PM

    @Dan the man: Data protection is irrelevant in investigations of this, terrorist and organised crime related natures.

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    Mute Ger
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    Mar 24th 2021, 5:25 AM

    @Dan the man: police monitor places where sex abuse images are posted both on the normal Web and dark Web. Don’t worry their not going to be getting access to your browsing history from virgin media.

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    Mute EillieEs
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    Mar 24th 2021, 1:03 PM

    @Dan the man: being so concerned with how exactly he was caught is not a good look.

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    Mute Colm Lawlor
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    Mar 24th 2021, 12:02 PM

    what happened. judge nolan actually sent him to jail. not like him. even with a small sentence

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