@gordon o loughlin: Gordon look up London Real its fake news here

@Young Angus: yes and if you don’t understand that best get a refund for your tinfoil hat and troll college. Comments like yours are a result of misinformation and are very dangerous. Think before you type my good man

@Mikey Hawk: really…. Seriously people need to listen to the professionals and not hear say on Facebook. It’s a slap in the face to hospital workers believe me. Watching people say goodbye to loved ones from a window is heartbreaking. The sooner this virus is gone the better.

@Mikey Hawk: London Real – David Icke – shape-shifting reptilian humanoids control our world. Sounds like a reliable source.

@gordon o loughlin: ive no tinfoil hat and I’m not a troll but stand back and have a look. Yes there is a virus that there is no doubt but how many people are actually dying from it? If this virus hit 50years ago before social media do you think the same hysteria would have insued?

@Young Angus: you are out of your mind if you actually believe that.

@Lily Martin: how many people died from T.B last year worldwide?

@Young Angus: where’s this cure you were talking about? You’ve already been asked for it.

@Young Angus: absolutely not. I agree with you on that but this virus is very real. Most people are fine but when you see the impact on the elderly it’s heartbreaking. That’s all I’m saying

@The Bloody Nine: Google sky news Australia I’m not tech savy enough to share links my apologies.

@gordon o loughlin: I know where you are coming from. I’m just cross because i think we not being told the truth something else is at play. The lads playing golf were not bothered about a virus

@gordon o loughlin: spacer, wake up and see what the people who are giving this advice are doing..

@gordon o loughlin: didn’t see your comments anywhere when it came to #golfgate. Back to bed ya ghoui

@Young Angus: your reply is pretty much as expected (a variation of ‘do your own research’). But even if you can’t share your peer reviewed sources surely you could at least explain this “cure” in your own words, assuming you understand what you’re claiming.

@Young Angus: Have you anything even remotely credible to present??

@Young Angus: Not “tech savvy enough” to copy and paste links. But savvy enough in virology, epidemiology, infection control, and pharmacology to state there’s a treatment available, but it’s not being shared or used widely – yet you know about it.

@Young Angus: what are the 3 freely available drugs? I’m intrigued.

@Young Angus: your source is sky news Australia? You might as well reference fox news. Definitely not a news outlet I’d be going to for important information.

@The Bloody Plaquenil & zinc are two of those readily available medicines that are helping ppl against the virus, you’ll find that both are CDC & FDA approved aswell jump onto there website and I’m sure any peer review data is there to support this lads claims all you doubters and sheep want links to actual scientifically peer reviewed data (but don’t even use the links or info given bout these when presented to them) to everything from ppl who doubt the pandemic should give the government the powers they now have. remember democracy is built on freedom of the ppl the mortality rate is very low for this virus.

Let me ask you this when your given any info about the virus on the journal or any other news outlet what links do they give you to scientifically peer reviewed data on the virus?

@The Bloody Nine: here’s another on for you check out how much WHO spent on flights last year for staff over 200m know how much they spent on fight TB 55m AIDS 56m mental health 48m?

I could keep going here aswell this doesn’t add up or make sense for a world health organisation that has all the population best interests at heart does it?

I suggest you watch the whole lot of this before you judge anyone’s beliefs based on who your being lead by and tbh it’s generally fake news with a semi truth.

https://freedomplatform.tv/plandemic-indoctornation-world-premiere/

@Young Angus: not savy enough to share a link ? But your gonna give medical advice? Hahahaha man sit down you absolute mongrel of an excuse at a person

@The Bloody Nine: how much peer reviewed information is there on coronavirus. very little because it takes several months to get a peer reviews done. that’s the information coming from all sides. most of it is small sample size we’ve seen this in coronavirus patients. which most likely wont stand scrutiny.

@gordon o loughlin: what professionals??

@Young Angus: Probably not – that’s the nature of social media. Hysteria develops much more quickly about everything – true and untrue equally.

@Young Angus: What exactly would he see?

@Benja: its called ivermectin triple therapy. A combination of ivermectin doxycycline and zinc.

@Ivan Ó Sirideáin: did i insult anyone here no. I just shared my point of view. Yet here you go throwing insults from behind your keyboard. Your the kind of person that id like to argue with face to face and see how many insults you throw then. Good day sir

@Young Angus:
Would you get real…. Go back upstairs and pick up your Leggo off the bedroom floor before your Mammy smacks your botty!!

@Joe Toner: mammy obviously didn’t do a good job teaching you to spell its Lego.

@Young Angus: no profile picture, no followers and not being followed by anyone. All the evidence I need to know that you are a Troll.

@DJ Dave Wexford: keeping my private life private makes me a troll?

@Mikey Hawk: London Real? A banker that’s thrown his lot in with David Icke. Asking for money to create a business for himself.

@Young Angus: precisely if you had any credibility you would at least have a profile picture.

@Young Angus: in simple terms he means tin foil

@DJ Dave Wexford: go on YouTube type in sky news Australia coronavirus cure. Watch the interview. Your free to make your assumptions after that.

@gordon o loughlin: Fact Check – GP’s are not experts in masks! Also surgeons don’t wear masks all day 5 days a week like we are about to force our children too.
We have to get a grip on what the end goal is here – to prevent deaths in people who would not have otherwise died.
We can all look at contradictory scientific theory but there is a country of 10m like Sweden where they are not wearing face coverings and the death rate has been in decline since June. In Sweden as of today’s date the are 71,961 people currently with CV19 of those 71,935 with mild or no symptoms, and 26 people in severe cases. Statistically 100% mild and 0% severe.
it is not necessary to put our children though the physiological and psychological stress wearing them all day in school.

@gordon o loughlin: @gordon o loughlin: Fact Check – GP’s are not experts in masks! Also surgeons don’t wear masks all day 5 days a week like we are about to force our children too.
We have to get a grip on what the end goal is here – to prevent deaths in people who would not have otherwise died.
We can all look at contradictory scientific theory but there is a country of 10m like Sweden where they are not wearing face coverings and the death rate has been in decline since June. In Sweden as of today’s date there are 71,961 people currently with CV19 of those 71,935 with mild or no symptoms, and 26 people in severe cases. Statistically 100% mild and 0% severe.
it is not necessary to put our children though the physiological and psychological stress wearing them all day in school.

@Chris Davy: I’ve had a mask on for 40 hours a week for 6 weeks now, does my opinion count? Also, when you say it’s about preventing deaths of those that wouldn’t have otherwise died, who exactly is that? Sounds like a sacrafoce the elderly campaign.

@The Boss: thanks for your reply, Boss. However, all I’ve asked for is a peer reviewed source for the other lad’s magic cure and all you’ve linked is London Real, again. I got a good chuckle out of the video but I’m not going to take anything seriously from a guy that believes (or pretends to believe) that reptilian humanoids run the world.

@The Bloody Nine: go on YouTube type in sky news Australia coronavirus cure. Watch the interview. You can form your own opinion then.

@Young Angus:
I’m scarlet!!

@The Boss: is this thing allowed out unsupervised?

@Young Angus: they’ve been testing a drug that’s used against parasites, and there’s been some good early indications but it’s only been tested in vitro. So there isn’t a magic 3 drug concoction that has a 100% success rate in curing thousands of people with SARS CoV-2.

@The Bloody Nine: Exactly. We already know Covid-19 is a virus and certain drugs, like antibiotics, have no effect on viruses, which is why the HSE have had campaigns urging people not to take them for such things as colds.
The drug ivermectin is used against parasites, it was tested in a test tube with Covid-19 in vast concentrations and found to be somewhat successful. However those levels are much higher than could be used or found in human blood concentrations. It just couldn’t work. It’s like saying battery acid can kill Covid-19 – in a test tube, but obviously that’s impossible to replicate in the human body.
As already said an antibiotic, no antibiotic, can have an effect on a virus, and doxycycline is an antibiotic while zinc is an essential mineral zinc deficiency is quite unusual. Taking zinc when it’s unnecessary can cause detrimental effects such as nausea, headaches and, if prolonged, it may even lead to a lower immune system.
There’s a perception that if a doctor says something it must be correct, after all he or she is a doctor, and generally that’s good advice. However one voice contradicting thousands is usually wrong, there are of course exceptions like the case of an intern called Barry Marshall and a pathologist called Robin Warren working in the Royal Perth Hospital. Together they proved that stomach ulcers were caused by a bacteria called H. pylori and turned centuries of established medical fact upon it’s head. Before anyone gets carried away, Barry Marshall proved it by infecting then curing himself, more than once.
Fantastic claims need fantastic proof, and that’s where these others fall flat.

@Young Angus: maybe either way the politicians have made a mockery of the whole thing but still I’d hope people listen to the health authorities

@Madethyme: ghoui….. Back to school lad haha. If you’re gonna troll someone best learn to spell it carries more weight

@The Boss: if you have to ask that then there’s no hope

@Young Angus: “keeping my private life private makes me a troll?”

Actually Young Angus, if you want to keep your private life private then I would respectfully suggest you should also keep your opinions private too.

You should be able to stand up and be counted and be able to support your opinion as an individual or else not express it. It is not you alone but many people in the Journal comment with made up names and profiles, but I only really respect the opinions of people are prepared to stand as individuals behind those opinions whether I agree with the opinion or not.

Anonymous opinions are as worthless as posts making claims with no references…

@Chris Davy: Are Sweden still testing people in the community? They have 100,000 tests per million compared to Ireland at 155,000 tests per million. It was reported that they stopped community testing and contact tracing and only these those vulnerable and ill with respiratory symptoms – so quoting thir case numbers is meaningless and there is no community testing. I leave it up to the reader to confirm if this is still the case, but my understanding is that there is no community testing of people or contact tracing.

Sweden where they have strict social distancing and shut pubs and restaurants and cafes that breach the rules, fines and that remain closed until the owner can prove that the issues have been addressed and staff retrained, The Sweden that asked people to work from home and not make unnecessary journeys that saw over 90% reduction in public transport and commuter traffic. Sweden that banned non essential travel into Sweden and still retains that ban for many non EU countries as well as advising Swedish people against travel. The airport recommends mask wearing. Not that long ago Sweden that had a death per million lower than Ireland and is now at 8th spot in the death per million table, chasing the UK at 6th spot while Ireland has fallen to 18th Spot. So when you read UK articles remember they are comparing the Titanic to the Lusitania.

Just let that sink in … Sweden had less deaths per million to Ireland and had it retained that it would be at 19th spot in the table of deaths per million – instead it is at 8th spot

The Sweden that only tested people in hospital in some areas and the Sweden that had no contact tracing when I looked last. This meant that non hospital deaths, such as nursing home deaths, were not reported as they were never tested in some areas.

the information below is for visitors and the Swedish governments recommendations and local rules.
https://www.krisinformation.se/en/hazards-and-risks/disasters-and-incidents/2020/official-information-on-the-new-coronavirus/visiting-sweden-during-the-covid-19-pandemic

Sweden may not require masks in public places but then it has bans on gatherings of over 50 people and police have the authority to break up such gatherings – so the Dublin protest of the other day would have been illegal in Sweden.

Read more about face masks here (need to translate) and also remember it is not the Swedish government but the local health authorities that make the rules – the article from official Swedish sources speculates that masks may give such a false sense of security that it may be counter productive – however – and I quote the translation they leave the door open to recommending face masks in certain situations
“We do not currently recommend a broad use of mouthguards in society as knowledge of how mouthguards affect the spread of infection is uncertain. However, there may be situations where mouth protection can be of value despite the uncertain state of knowledge about its effect.

We will therefore, in consultation with the regional infection control units, take a position on which situations a recommendation on oral protection would be of value at national or regional level. Examples of such situations can be, for example, at the optician or in the event of congestion in public transport.”

https://www.folkhalsomyndigheten.se/smittskydd-beredskap/utbrott/aktuella-utbrott/covid-19/om-sjukdomen-och-smittspridning/smittspridning/munskydd/

In a survey of mask wearing over 1 million Swedish residents said they regularly wore a mask outside the home.

I have spent some time looking at this as a lot of misinformation comes from Sweden, in part caused by the fact that it is the regional health authorities that make the rules and not central government. I cannot post too many links but I suggest people read about Sweden and their approach before comparing Sweden with anywhere else.

@Sean: it’s equal parts sad and scary.

@Cian Martin: funny how the asian countries were first hit with the pandemic considering they were wearing masks for years

@John: agree, and the idea that wearing a mask is in infringment on ‘my civil liberties’ is such a farce, best case scenario it’s protecting vulnerable ppl from catching it. Worst case scenario it’s a harmless waste of time and If that proves to be the case who cares id still rather wear it and hope I’m doing my part to reduce the spread. It’s just a fkg mask, no it won’t give you pleurisy, or mess up your ph levels, or deprive you of oxygen to the brain, and yes people can still hear you and communicate. I think it’s a really Irish mentality that no matter what the topic is you must find at least 40 reasons why it’s a bad idea before you can just be positive about something. It’s like a default setting.

@Cian Martin: but not all day like our school children will have to do.
Health professionals only wear masks in close proximity to patients.
Even surgeons spend less hours in surgery than school children spend in class.

@Irish Mudder: I wear one for the entirety of my shift at work, have done for a dmfew weeks, I can officially report 0 consequences.

@Madethyme:

The asian countries are over the pandemic now. They had it and now they don’t. We’re still paralyzed by it because of loonies whinging about how the mask caused them “distress”.

@David Van-Standen: Any chance you can give me your dealers number? I Want some of that

@Deirdre Meredith: obviously not, hence the smile emoji at the end of the post. :-)

@DJ Dave Wexford: it’s not drugs, its humour..
:-)

@David Van-Standen:

Funny thing is, as a fairly anti-authoritarian type myself, people usually call me a conspiracy theorist when I talk about the dangers of facial recognition and mass surveilance.

I thought the normalisation of wearing masks covering your face was great. It’s mad to see how these loonies are ignoring the very real issue of mass surveilance that’s massively impared by masks.

@dowthebow: yeah, again, that’s how science works. It took that time for someone to prove it. People shouldn’t just accept unproven work. What we know, there’s an airborne pathogen, masks reduce the risk.

@Dave O’Keeffe: We know that? A couple of wks back we didn’t know that? What “science” has proven it since? And proven it in a couple of wks?
I think you’ll find the consensus among the scientists is that it probably reduces the risk, but it’s yet to be proven.
Either way, the article is supposed to be about debunking the CO2 build up, but the 2 things get conflated together, while one might be false it doesn’t prove the other

@dowthebow: a couple of weeks? Masks were advised for those that had it or thought they had it months ago. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7191274/

@Dave O’Keeffe: couple of wks, couple of months, 1500+ yrs, the point still stands.
While you produce a study that advocates for the efficacy of masks I could also produce an article that advocates against.
WHO, CDC, and several other bodies agree that while they can’t prove the efficacy of masks to prevent against viruses below 3 microns in size, that it probably has a positive effect.
But again, that’s not what the article is supposed to be about…

@dowthebow: No they weren’t. No one ever thought the earth was flat in the middle ages. They just couldn’t draw very well.

@Eamon: You obviously dont realise the the current mask advice IS NOT to protect the wearer but rather to protect the community around the wearer.

@dowthebow: see what you did there? I gave you a peer reviewed study and you said you COULD give me an article. 1. You didn’t give anything 2. An article isn’t anywjere near as legitimate as peer reviewed study. Also, I know what the article is about, I wasn’t replying to the article

@Dave O’Keeffe: it’s not peer reviewed, and I don’t care enough

@Fiona Fitzgerald: philosophers and mathematicians from greece, india, persia and several other places thought the earth to be round 2000+ yrs ago. Galileo was persecuted by the catholic church in the 1500′s for suggesting the earth was round and circles the sun. Until the globe was circumnavigated by Magellan and some other fella, the world was still widely believed to be flat, or close to flat…
The science wasn’t the science, until it was the science, and that took 1500yrs.

@dowthebow: sorry, it’s a systemic review. A systematic review is described as the most reliable source of evidence to guide clinical practice. The purpose of a systematic review is to deliver a meticulous summary of all the available primary research in response to a research question.

@Laura Mccabe: But we are not better off. That’s the point. Cases have gone up considerably since masked were introduced and social distancing has completely gone out the window. NPHET specifically stated masks are not a substitute for social distancing. Michael Martin isnt even social distancing with the mask on. It’s a complete bluff.

Do as I say, not as I do

@Vladimir Macro: if people can’t understand the concept of social distancing then that needs to be addressed, you can’t say it’s a direct result of wearing masks. So many things affecting the numbers – badly managed working conditions, car pooling, gatherings, lack of social distancing, people just getting lax in general, people out and about etc numbers are bound to go up, it’s a combination of a lot of things but I don’t think scrapping masks will make it better

@Vladimir Macro: your missing the point, governments don’t control the spread of covid, but people do. Bottom line is people surpress it by distancing. You can’t blame the gov if people won’t do what they are asked and as such we could be looking at lockdown for years because people won’t do what’s been asked of them.

@Vladimir Macro:
I hate wearing a mask, I hate the feeling of wearing one but if it gives people even a 10% chance of me not spreading the virus (if I was infected) isn’t it worth it?
It could be your Mum or Dad standing beside or close to me.
I truly detest the idea of a mask and genuinely wonder about effectiveness but for the sake of others I will continue to wear one.

@Macca Attack: The government are clearly not setting an example either. The messages are changing each day

@Michael Clinton: I agree and I was of very similar view up until recently. Then I did my own research.

@Vladimir Macro: that’s not true at all, you’ve been against every government measure so far. Stop pretending to be moderate to gain credence

@Dave O’Keeffe: actually head of The WHO just came out yesterday and said no more lockdowns are necessary not that we should be listening to someone who changes 180 degrees so often.

https://www.who.int/dg/speeches/detail/who-director-general-s-opening-remarks-at-the-media-briefing-on-covid-19—21-august-2020

“So-called lockdowns enabled many countries to suppress transmission and take the pressure off their health systems.

But lockdowns are not a long-term solution for any country.”

We do not need to choose between lives and livelihoods, or between health and the economy. That’s a false choice.

@Dave O’Keeffe: Says the information sorcerer himself. Follow every inch of every government guideline and question nothing.

You probably never crossed a road without lights.

@ahhere: They said that some countries need to use lockdowns to keep their hospitals from being overwhelmed, as happened in Northern Italy.

How do you take from that that “no more lockdowns are necessary”?? Did we suddenly build extra hospitals and recruit experienced staff overnight?

@Fiona Fitzgerald: I wouldn’t take much from them without a pinch of salt.

If lockdowns worked Peru would be corona free and Sweden would be ravaged. Many more examples but it’s hard to believe given the news (and who) says the opposite.

https://www.who.int/images/default-source/default-album/top-who-contributors-in-2018-.tmb-1920v.png?sfvrsn=fcd65ed_5

@Vladimir Macro: share your research so.

@Jen: No thanks, I prefer not be drawn into a brawl when all the information is out there, if you scratch the surface.