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As it happened: Paris on high alert after slaughter of 129 people by 'three teams of terrorists'

One Irish person was injured in the deadliest violence to strike France since World War II.

FRENCH PRESIDENT FRANCOIS Hollande has declared a state of emergency after a night of terror in Paris, as the city was hit by a series of explosions and shootings.

The worst carnage was at a concert hall hosting a US rock band, where scores of people were held hostage and attackers ended the standoff by detonating explosive belts.

What we know so far:

  • French authorities say 129 people were killed in the six separate attacks on Friday night. Another 99 are on a critically injured list.
  • There were two suicide bombings and an explosion outside Stade de France during a soccer match between France and Germany.
  • Others were shot dead at bars and restaurants. The biggest massacre occurred at the Bataclan music venue where 80 people died.
  • The Islamic State group has claimed responsibility.
  • Investigators in Paris say ‘three teams of terrorists’ coordinated the slaughter.
  • Seven attackers – all wearing suicide vests – were later reported killed.
  • Several arrests have been made in Brussels. 

The Department of Foreign Affairs has set up a phone line at 01-408-2000 for anyone worried about relatives or friends who are not yet accounted for in Paris.

Any Irish in Paris can also contact the Embassy on +33144176700.

It’s now around five hours since the last of the terror attacks in Paris.

We’ll have updates here all day at TheJournal.ie.

The attacks – targeting young concert-goers, soccer fans and Parisians enjoying a Friday night out at popular nightspots – killed at least 120 people in the deadliest violence to strike France since World War II.

President Francois Hollande condemned it as terrorism and pledged that France will stand firm against its enemies.

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After initial reports that the death toll could reach up to 160, that is now being revised down.

The Press Association is still reporting that more than 140 could have been killed. Associated Press reports ‘at least 120′ and the latest update from the Paris prosecutor’s office – shortly before – 4.30am also gave the death toll at around 120.

Reuters is reporting that the death toll at the Bataclan venue – where the Eagles of Death Metal were playing a show – could now be 87. It was previously reported as many as 120 people were dead at that location.

This is the latest from Reuters on the concert venue attack:

A Paris city hall official said four gunmen systematically slaughtered at least 87 young people attending a rock concert at the Bataclan music hall. Anti-terrorist commandos eventually launched an assault on the building. The gunmen detonated explosive belts and dozens of shocked survivors were rescued.

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This was foreign affairs minister Charlie Flanagan’s statement on the attacks, issued shortly after midnight:

“It was with deep shock and dismay that I learned of this evening’s terrible events in Paris.

“I have just spoken with France’s Ambassador to Ireland, H.E. Jean-Pierre Thébault, and conveyed to him, on behalf of the people of Ireland, deepest condolences and sympathy on this appalling tragedy.

“I told him that we stand with the people of France at this time of great difficulty and that Ireland will assist in any way possible.

“Our Embassy in Paris is on stand-by to offer assistance to any Irish people affected by these events and the staff of the Embassy are on duty and monitoring the situation closely.”

 

 

Once again, concerned families with loved ones in Paris who may be unaccounted for can call the Department of Foreign Affairs helpline any time at 01 408 2000.

Any Irish in Paris can also contact the Embassy on +33144176700.

The Department of Foreign Affairs travel advice for Irish citizens has been updated this morning – with people being told to “exercise extreme caution”.

Here’s the full advice:

“A state of emergency has been declared in Paris following multiple events on Friday evening. Citizens in Paris should exercise extreme caution and follow the instructions of the local authorities, who are advising people to stay indoors. Irish citizens in Paris should make contact to reassure their family at home as to their safety.

“Airports remain operational but Irish citizens in or travelling to France should expect additional security and possible travel disruptions. Anyone intending to travel to Paris should contact their airline or tour operator for further information.”

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This graphic shows the locations of the attacks and the death toll at each site (which could change over the coming hours):

President Barack Obama has spoken by phone to French President Francois Hollande to offer the condolences of the American people.

The White House said in a statement that Obama had reiterated the United States’ steadfast, unwavering support for the people of France, calling the nation America’s oldest ally and friend.

Obama also has reaffirmed the offer of any necessary support to the French investigation.

The White House says the two leaders have pledged to work together, and with nations around the world, to defeat the scourge of terrorism.

Friends and relatives have been using social media to search for loved ones feared to have been at the sites of the attacks. 

People have been taking to Twitter to appeal for information on loved ones believed to have been at the Bataclan concert.

“We are looking for Marie, who was at the Bataclan, we have no news from her. If you see her, please contact me #Bataclan”, the tweet below reads…

“If you have news of Christophe aka @MokeComputer he was at Bataclan tonight and we need to hear from him,” another Twitter user wrote:

Irish Facebook users have also been using the ‘Safety Check’ feature which allows anyone in Paris to mark themselves as safe…

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You can find the Safety Check here. 

Earlier in the evening, Parisians used the hashtag #portesouvertes, or “open doors,” to offer a place to stay for people who were evacuated from the sites of the attacks…

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More details coming in on the attack at the Bataclan theatre. You’ll find a separate report on that here.

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Iranian President Hassan Rouhani has canceled trips to France and Italy in the wake of the terror attacks.

The state-run IRNA news agency quoted him as saying that Iran “itself has been a victim of the scourge of terrorism” and the fight against terrorism must go on.

France was one of the world powers involved in recent negotiations with the Islamic Republic over its nuclear programme.

Hossein Jaber Ansari, a Foreign Ministry spokesman, also was quoted as saying:

“Those terrorist groups that committed the Paris crimes do not believe in ethical principles and they are not loyal to any type of divine religions — including Islam.”

British Prime Minister is set to hold a meeting of the UK’s emergency committee Cobra this morning.

Police in France are hunting for possible accomplices of the eight assailants who carried out the attacks last night.

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Here’s the latest update on that manhunt and general developments this morning, just filed by Associated Press:

French police are hunting possible accomplices of eight assailants who terrorised Paris concert-goers, cafe diners and soccer fans in this country’s deadliest peacetime attacks, a succession of explosions and shootings that cast a dark shadow over this luminous tourist destination.

Parisians who went to sleep in horror at initial news of the attacks woke Saturday to learn that at least 120 people were killed and scores wounded. World leaders joined together in sympathy and indignation, New York police increased security measures, and people around the world reached out to friends and loved ones in France.

The perpetrators remained a mystery — their nationalities, their motives, even their exact number. Suspicion turned to Islamic extremists, who are angry at France’s military operations against the Islamic State group and al-Qaida affiliates, and who targeted satirical newspaper Charlie Hebdo this year and have hit Jewish and other sites in France in the past.

French President Francois Hollande convened a special security meeting Saturday morning. He vowed to be “merciless” with the nation’s foes following what he called unprecedented terrorist attacks.

In a new development for France, seven attackers died in suicide bombings, the Paris prosecutor’s office said. Another was killed by police, and prosecutor’s office spokeswoman Agnes Thibault-Lecuivre said authorities can’t rule out that other attackers are at large. Investigators are also looking for possible accomplices.

The attacks, on at least six sites, were near-simultaneous.

The Vatican has condemned “in the most radical way” the terror attacks in Paris.

The Rev. Federico Lombardi said in a statement early that the violence was “an attack on peace for all humanity”.

He said it requires “a decisive, supportive response on the part of all of us as we counter the spread of homicidal hatred in all of its forms”.

Lombardi said the Vatican was praying for the victims and the wounded “and for all the French people”.

Buildings around the world are being lit up in solidarity with the people of France.

U2 has postponed its planned concert in Paris tonight in light of the deadly attacks across the city.

The Dublin band said in a statement that it would go ahead with the concert “at an appropriate time”.

The members said they watched in shock and disbelief at the unfolding events, and were devastated by the loss of life at the Eagles of Death Metal concert.

They added:

“We hope and pray that all of our fans in Paris are safe.”

Taoiseach Enda Kenny has said it’s the “blackest of black days”.

Speaking on Morning Ireland, the Taoiseach said his thoughts and sympathies were with the French people.

For now the immediate priority is to find out how the attacks were planned and coordinated, Kenny said.

Stephen Carroll, an Irish reporter with France 24, has been speaking to Morning Ireland about his experience in Paris last night.

He was at a comedy gig when news of the attacks began to come in, he said.

Carroll later went down to the scene at the Bataclan…

French Ambassador to Ireland Jean-Pierre Thébault told Morning Ireland he had received a phonecall from President Michael D. Higgins late last night.

Higgins had called to express “his very sad feelings” and those of the people of Ireland, he said.

Thébault said it was a very strong sign of the massive support for the French people from the people of Ireland.

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Angela Merkel has said she will meet with her ministers to discuss the Paris attacks. The German Chancellor pledged to “do everything” her country could to help France fight against terrorists.

We will do everything to help in the hunt for the perpetrators and instigators, and to carry out the fight together against these terrorists.

The latest death toll – as reported by Reuters citing French officials – is now at 128.

The critically injured list has reached 99 people, with another 80 reported injured.

Who is responsible?

That’s the question in Paris, right now.

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Unusually, no group has taken responsibility for the attacks yet.

Reports from the city indicate that the acts of terror were carried out by at least eight militants, all wearing suicide vests.

The suspects so far include ISIS and al Qaeda. Security experts are saying that the coordinated attacks show a level of sophistication not seen since the 2008 attacks in Mumbai, India. During that horrific day, 166 people died in multiple sites.

In fact, yesterday’s reign of terror may have been too sophisticated for a group such as ISIS to have carried it out.

There is also the possibility that the atrocity was the work of a group of people in France working independently of any global terror group.

This video is getting shared a lot today. It shows defiant French people singing La Marseillaise as they leave the Stade de France, the site of two suicide bombs during a friendly match between France and Germany.

Flights between Ireland and Paris ARE operating today but Aer Lingus are offering full refunds to people who do not wish to travel.

Meanwhile, the Department of Foreign Affairs has urged Irish citizens in Paris to exercise extreme caution and to follow the instructions of local officials.

More details on travel and transport arrangements can be found here.

We’ve all heard and read reports of ‘carnage’ at the Bataclan last night but a picture is worth a thousand words…

A couple comfort each other outside the venue:

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A survivor makes an important phone call as she walks away from the venue:

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Investigators inspect a lifeless body outside the Bataclan:

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Some more detail on Taoiseach Enda Kenny’s comments to Morning Ireland earlier…

“I was reading some material when I saw the newsflash, the same as citizens all around the world,” he told host Cathal Mac Coille

“It’s the blackest of black days for Paris, for France and its citizens and through them on, the citizens of the free world.”

He said it was an “appalling and horrendous attack on the free world”.

“Obviously this was coordinated, at six different locations. 120 people dead, 200 injured.”

“My thoughts and sympathies are with the bereaved, the French people. The second time in ten months… I recall specifically walking down the streets of Paris with all the leaders of the European Union and other countries linked arm in arm in solidarity and against evil which is what this is.”

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The Taoiseach said authorities in France were trying to determine who was responsible, and how the attacks were planned and coordinated.

He noted that some 200 world delegations were due in the city at the end of the month for the COP21 Paris climate conference, but stressed that the priority was to express the sympathies of the world to the French people.

“We hope and pray that those others who planned this will be brought to justice in the shortest possible time.”

Sky News has been speaking to a number of survivors to the attacks across the city through translators.

One man who was at the Bataclan told the broadcaster that the concert had started about 30 minutes before the attack started.

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“We heard firecracker noises and we turned around and saw two young people – well we were a bit far away – with machine guns firing into the crowd.

So we all laid on the ground. There was panic, screams, shots continued to be fired. At the right of the stage, a door opened and we all rushed there.

“Stuck there. It was leading to a staircase. We got stuck in a staircase for five to 10 minutes.

“People were trying to force some doors open but they only led to dressing rooms and green rooms so it didn’t lead to anything.

“Someone managed to open a door that led to the roof. We got up to the rooftop. We waited for a while and there was a man who had an apartment with a window that opened onto a rooftop. He opened the window and let us into his apartment. We stayed the whole time at his place.

“We could hear gunshots, explosions, screams. We didn’t know what was going on really.”

You have, no doubt, seen this image countless times since last night.

DailyEdge.ie writes: One artist’s poignant response to the tragedy has struck a chord with many. Jean Jullien, a French graphic designer based in London, shared a powerful image entitled Peace For Paris on his Instagram last night.

The moving twist on the peace icon has resonated with the masses – Boing Boing has even hailed it as “the internet’s official response” to the atrocities.

The Department of Foreign Affairs has confirmed it is providing assistance on one injured Irish citizen in Paris.

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Another witness spoke to Sky News about how his neighbourhood restaurants were hit in the wave of attacks.

“I heard some noise when I was at the bistro which is where I work. I got out and started running. I was looking for where the sound was coming from.

I figured out it was coming from… I arrived at the scene and there were lots of dead bodies on the ground. Lots of dead bodies.

“At that moment, you can’t tell if this is real or fiction, a movie. Whatever the case, a lot of people are dead.”

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President Francois Hollande has said that the attacks last night were “an act of war” in a televised address this morning.

He blamed the Islamic State group for the terrorist attacks.

A great horror…

During his speech this morning, Hollande announced that France will hold three days of mourning. 

He said that last night’s atrocities were planned carefully from outside France with coordination inside the country.

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President Hollande also put the death toll at 127.

He told his citizens that France is strong and that she will always win against tyranny.

In blaming the so-called Islamic State group, he referred to them as the Daech terrorist army.

More from President Hollande’s defiant address this morning: 

“We’re protecting the citizens and the country in this state of emergency. I pay homage to the country’s forces who fought the terrorists yesterday.

“Everyone has given the utmost. Everyone will put in the maximum effort in the coming days. France was attacked in a cowardly way, violently.

“France will be unbreakable in the face of these attacks.  All possible measures will be taken.

We will work alongside our allies to fight this terrorist menace in this most serious, unhappy and uncertain time in this country.

“I call for unity, courage and I will address the parliament, united at Versailles on Monday, to work out how to battle this.

France is strong and even if she is wounded, she will get up always and nothing can hold her down even if we are feeling the grief now.

“France is solid. She is active. She is vigilant. And she will triumph.

My dear compatriots, we will defend ourselves. It is our country – and more than that. It is about humanity.

“Everyone must remember their unity. Long live France.”

Live footage on rolling news stations are showing small crowds gathering around restaurants where people were killed last night.

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Police have not cordoned off the area. People are able to walk close to the buildings where militants opened fire last night.

The scenes are quiet with Sky News reporting that there are queues in the area of people willing to give blood.

Archbishop of Dublin Diarmuid Martin will say a Mass at St Mary’s Pro Cathedral this morning at 11am to remember the victims of last night’s tragedies.

In a statement, he warned about the dangers of fundamentalism and said the events were an example of what happens when religion is distorted for ideological reasons.

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The Islamic State group, after being blamed by French president Francois Hollande, admits it was behind last night’s attacks which left 127 people dead in Paris.

Meanwhile, Russia has spoken with its Foreign Minister saying the attacks “justify” a stronger fight against radical jihadists in Syria.

Islamic State has said that France will remain a ‘top target’ as long as continues its current policies.

It said it carefully studied the locations for the attacks.

The statement they issued is in French but we’re hoping to have an English translation soon.

In a separate development, a terminal at Gatwick Airport has been evacuated because of a suspect package.

Syria’s embattled president Bashar al-Assad has come out to condemn Friday’s attacks, speaking to Lebanese TV.

He said:

What France suffered from savage terror is what the Syrian people have been enduring for over five years.

We mentioned earlier people were queuing up to give blood. Here’s photographic evidence of that.

Here’s more from that statement from Islamic State in which they say France continues to be a target:

“Eight brothers carrying explosive belts and guns targeted areas in the heart of the French capital that were specifically chosen in advance: the Stade de France during a match against Germany which that imbecile François Hollande was attending; the Bataclan where hundreds of idolaters were together in a party of perversity as well as other targets in the 10th, 11th and 18th arrondissement…”

France and those who follow its path must know that they remain the principal targets of the Islamic State.

(This is the statement, in French)

A timeline of terror…

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We’ve compiled a quick look at exactly how events unfolded last night from 9.25pm local time.

Read it, in full, here

Le Monde has published an extremely distressing video, taken by one of its journalists, of the back door of the Bataclan as concertgoers tried to escape the four terrorists who had opened fire on the crowd.

A man and a woman can be seen dangling from second and third storey windows, while there are a number of bodies lying outside the entrance.

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People can be seen dragging injured people away from the deadly scene, while others hobble away from the area.

Gunshots can be heard continuously in the background, as well as shouts from a man looking for somebody called Oscar.

There is a lot of talk right now about whether or not Islamic State is responsible – or if they are merely ‘taking credit’.

The Guardian has spotted what it calls a ‘key mistake’ in the statement.

The statement mentions an attack in the 18th district but there was no attack there. The Stade du France is in the Saint-Denis area.

According to the newspaper, “It is possible the group has mixed these places up, although it does mention that attack earlier in the sentence.”

BREAKING 

A man was arrested in Germany last week and there are now thought to be clear links between him and the Paris attacks.

Here is what AFP has to say on the matter:

Bavaria’s state premier Horst Seehofer said that there was “reason to believe” that a man arrested last week with several weapons in southern Germany was linked to attackers who killed more than 128 people in Paris.

“There is reason to believe that this is possibly linked” to the attacks, Seehofer told a party conference.

Police had confirmed the arrest on 5 November during a routine check on a motorway, saying “many machine guns, revolvers and explosives” were found in the suspect’s vehicle.

Meanwhile, David Cameron has told the UK that it must be “prepared for a number of British casualties”.

In an extremely strongly worded statement, he called the “sickening” terrorist attacks the worst acts of violence in Paris since WWII.

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Meanwhile, the Department of Foreign Affairs in Ireland has said that they are providing help to one Irish person injured in the attacks. They have been give no further indications that there were any more Irish citizens caught up in the attacks.

U2′s Bono has been chatting to Dave Fanning on 2fm about cancelling their two imminent Paris gigs.

He said their “first thoughts are with Eagles (of Death Metal) fans”.

The majority of victims last night are music fans…this is the first direct hit on music that we’ve had in this so-called war on terror… Whatever its called… It’s very upsetting… These are our people.

The band had been tweeting from Paris before the tragic events unfolded.

Some poignant shots from outside the French Embassy in Dublin this morning.

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Police in Paris have asked people not to spread incorrect information. This comes after rumours of a car chase and gunshots in Bagnolet were spread across social media.

There was no truth to the rumours.

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Our columnist Tom Clonan warns that more attacks in Paris could be imminent. He writes:

The attacks were also carefully timed to diffuse and dilute the French security response. To allow a greater amount of time in the ‘kill zone’. Hence the unusually high death toll. To kill so many people, so deliberately, in such a short time speaks of a level of determination and training associated with a terrorist organisation growing in strength and confidence.

As a consequence, this will not be the last such attack in France or elsewhere in the EU.

Islamic State and their affiliates have shown a fast learning curve in mounting such attacks. They will see this operation in Paris as a stellar success and will be emboldened to repeat the exercise. It will also encourage copy-cat attacks elsewhere.

Ireland is among those states that needs to sit up and take notice of the lessons learned by all sides in Friday’s horrific killings.  Terrorism is here to stay.

Read his column in full here

This man appeared at the Bataclan this afternoon on his bike. He had a piano with him, played a rendition of John Lennon’s Imagine and left.

Let’s return to the statement David Cameron gave to British television earlier. It can easily be labelled as ‘fighting talk’.

They also not-so-subtly suggest a culture divide between the victims and the terrorists.

Here are his words, in full: 

“The events in Paris are the worst act of violence in France since the Second World War. The worst terrorist attack in Europe for a decade. A horrifying and sickening attack.

Our hearts go out to the French people, and to all those who lost loved ones. Today the British and French people stand together, as we have so often before in our history when confronted by evil.

“Shocked, but resolute. In sorrow, but unbowed. My message to the French people is simple: Nous sommes solidaires avec vous. Nous sommes tous ensemble. We stand with you. United.

While the full picture of what happened is still emerging, we know that there were multiple terror incidents across Paris and over 120 people are feared dead with many more injured.

“We must be prepared for a number of British casualties, and we are doing all we can to help those caught up in the attack.

These were innocent victims enjoying a Friday night out with friends and family, no doubt at the end of a hard week.

“They were not seeking to harm anyone. They were simply going about their way of life – our way of life.

And they were killed and injured by brutal, callous murderers who want to destroy everything our two countries stand for. Peace. Tolerance. Liberty. But we will not let them.

“We will redouble our efforts to wipe out this poisonous extremist ideology and, together with the French and our allies around the world, stand up for all we believe in.

“I have just chaired a meeting of COBR to review the security situation here in the UK. The threat level is already at severe, which means an attack is highly likely, and will remain so.

“Our police and intelligence agencies work round the clock to do all they can to keep us safe. Ever since the co-ordinated firearms attacks in Mumbai in 2008, we have all been working together to ensure we could respond to such an attack.

This summer police and other emergency services carried out a major exercise to test our response for multiple firearms attacks. And in light of last night’s attacks, we will of course review our plans and make sure we learn any appropriate lessons.

“It is clear that the threat from ISIL is evolving. Last night’s attack suggests a new degree of planning and coordination and a greater ambition for mass casualty attacks.

“And we must recognise that however strong we are, however much we prepare, we in the UK face the same threat. That’s why we continue to encourage the public to remain vigilant.

“And we will do all we can to support our police and intelligence agencies with the resources and the capabilities they need.

The terrorist aim is clear. It is to divide us and to destroy our way of life. So more than ever we must come together and stand united. And carry on with the way of life that we love, and that we know, and that will never be moved off.

“I hope to speak to President Hollande later today and I’ll make clear that we will do whatever we can to help.

Your values are our values. Your pain is our pain. Your fight is our fight. And together, we will defeat these terrorists.

The Sydney Opera House is the latest iconic landmark to turn blue, white and red in solidarity with Paris.

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Identifying victims is a slow task at the moment as the focus was on getting survivors from the Bataclan to hospital last night.

Many bodies remained in the venue overnight.

French media outlet Libération also says that many of those who were at the concert lost wallets and IDs or left them in bags and coats.

The Eiffel Tower turns off its lights every morning at 1am. But overnight, other landmark buildings across the world turned theirs on.

The Eiffel Tower and other attractions in France, including Disneyland Paris, are closed today.

It is reportedly the first time EuroDisney has closed for a day since it opened its magical gates in 1992.

A statement on its website reads:

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More on the closure of the Eiffel Tower.

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Management has told AFP it will remain closed “indefinitely” after the attacks.

There was a lot of chat and criticism last night about a tweet Wexford TD Mick Wallace sent from his account.

He defended the remarks on this afternoon, saying he does not condone terrorism.

“I don’t say things lightly. I feel very strongly about [the issue],” he told RTÉ’s Saturday with Claire Byrne show.

Wallace said he was shocked by last night’s attacks, calling them “completely unjustifiable”.

It was an inhumane act… It’s too bad for words. Under no circumstances do I condone the likes of Isis.

“It’s just horrific. It hardly bears thinking about… And all the people that died are so innocent of anything that’s going on.”

Read more here

Here’s another look at the unnamed man with the portable piano who played a version of Imagine outside the Bataclan today.

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People continue to gather around the six locations where people lost their lives last night, leaving tributes, flowers and other gestures of solidarity.

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Sand was laid to cover blood stains outside the restaurants where the first attacks happened last night.

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The French Football Federation has confirmed that a friendly match between France and England due to be played on Tuesday in Wembley will go ahead.

This tweet from a 19-year-old student in Chelsea has been retweeted more than 63,000 times as a debate about the refugee and migrant crisis swirls around social media in the wake of the Paris attacks.

JUST IN FROM PARIS…

One of the terrorists who wreaked havoc at the Bataclan last night was a Frenchman known to police, AFP has learned.

Another journalist, who works for Liberation, said police identified him by his fingerprints.

There are also reports of a Syrian passport being found near the body another militant. But he has yet to be formally identified.

The US State Department has confirmed that an unknown number of Americans were injured in the attacks.

A statement from deputy spokesman Mark Toner read:

The‎ United States Embassy in Paris is working round the clock to assist American citizens affected by this tragedy. ‎The US government is working closely with French authorities to identify American victims. We are aware there are Americans among the injured, and are offering them the full range of consular assistance.

Here are the latest figures from Paris:

128 people have died

300 people are in hospital

80 people are in a ‘critical condition’

53 people have been discharged from hospital

Like many of us, Stephen Colbert did not know what to say last night when closing out The Late Show.

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Devastating images are still emerging of survivors in Paris. These men were pictured outside the city morgue this morning.

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Such a heartbreaking contrast to new images just found of Eagles of Death Metal playing to an engaged crowd moments before the venue was attacked.

In the chaos of the Bataclan last night, many people left behind belongings – clothes, wallets, shoes and jewellery which are still strewn across the streets.

Little signs of a normal Friday night gone horrifically wrong.

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As information slowly emerges about some of those killed in last night’s attacks, officials have confirmed that at least three foreign nationals – two Belgians and a Portuguese man – are among the dead.

David Cameron has also warned of the possibility of “a number” of British victims.

The Dáil is to hold a minute’s silence in memory of the Paris victims on Tuesday.

The mark of respect will be followed by statements to express sympathy and solidarity with the French people, Government Chief Whip Paul Kehoe said.

BREAKING: Dutch police say a France-bound plane has been evacuated at Amsterdam’s Schiphol airport following “threats” posted on Twitter.

“We always take threats very seriously and we decided here to evacuate the passengers and to search the aircraft,” a police spokesperson told AFP.

Thousands of people are marching through Dublin this lunchtime in a show of solidarity with the victims of last night’s attacks.

At Gatwick Airport, a 41-year-old Frenchman is being questioned over ”what appears to be a firearm”, Sussex Police say.

The London School of Economics has named anti-corruption lawyer Valentin Ribet as a victim of the attack. He is the first person named.

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More on the incident at Gatwick Airport.

Sussex Police say that the North Terminal is now open.

A statement says the man is being interviewed:

Police were called at around 9.30am following suspicious actions by a man who discarded an item in a bin at the airport. Explosive Ordnance Disposal specialists were called to the airport to investigate the item and carried out a small controlled explosion.

Personal items and what appears to be a firearm were recovered and have been removed for forensic examination. However, the viability of the weapon has yet to be established.

A 41-year-old man from Vendôme in France was arrested at the scene at the time of the report on suspicion of firearms offences. He was ‘landside’ at the airport and had not checked in or passed through any passport or security checks.

Palestinian Islamist groups have condemned last night’s attacks.

Senior figures in Hamas, which rules the Gaza Strip but is considered by the US and EU to be a terrorist group, and Islamic Jihad criticised the killings that rocked the French capital.

Nafez Azzam, a member of Islamic Jihad’s political bureau, told AFP: “We condemn this crime in Paris against innocent people, this message of hatred.”

“Islam rejects indiscriminate killing,” he added.

One of those apparently responsible for the attacks, found with a Syrian passport, entered Europe through Greece last month, a Greek minister says.

Belgian police have raided a neighbourhood of the capital Brussels in connection with the deadly attacks in Paris, local TV station RTBF reported.

The network quoted an unidentified source as saying up to three raids were being carried out in the Molenbeek district in connection with the Paris attacks but police were not immediately available for comment.

One man has been arrested.

In Paris, several witness reported that some of the attackers arrived in a vehicle with Belgian license plates.

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London’s Tower Bridge has lit up in support of the people of Paris.

The US Army’s American football team took the field for their game with Tulane today carrying US and French flags.

Many on Twitter are sharing the words of then-London mayor Ken Livingstone in the wake of the 7/7 bombings a decade ago.

Livingstone’s words closed with a message directly to the perpetrators.

Whatever you do, however many you kill, you will fail.

Iranian President Hassan Rouhani has postponed his trip to Europe, condemning what he called “crimes against humanity”.

Rouhani had been due to hold talks in Rome today with Pope Francis as well as Italian counterpart Sergio Mattarella and Prime Minister Matteo Renzi before travelling on to the French capital.

Rouhani sent a message of condolence to French President Francois Hollande on the shootings.

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Thousands of Irish and French marched side-by-side this afternoon in a sombre solidarity march to remember those who died in last night’s terror attack in Paris.

Here are some of their words:

“I just moved to Dublin from Paris six weeks ago, after six years. So I feel like Paris is kind of my home.”

“I got on the bus and people were just chatting normally, it was just so so strange. Some people didn’t know. It was just like, why has everything not stopped? Why has the world not stopped?”

Among the thousands marching in Dublin, many French people struggled for words to describe their feelings:

“I don’t know, I don’t have any feeling today, ” Alex says with his country’s flag draped over his shoulders. “I just now want to be with my family in France.”

Ireland’s flag will fly at half-mast tomorrow on State buildings.

The wife of Eagles of Death Metal drummer Julian Dorio struggles with last night’s events after the band survived among the scores murdered in the Bataclan theatre.

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French international footballer Lassana Diarra has confirmed that his cousin was killed in one of last night’s attacks.

Diarra was playing for his country in the Stade De France when his cousin  was killed.

Several people have now been arrested in Brussels during police raids connected to the attacks in Paris.

Belgian Justice Minister Koen Geens said on RTBF television that these arrests in the capital’s Molenbeek neighbourhood “can be seen in connection with a grey Polo car rented in Belgium” found near the concert hall in the French capital where scores of people were killed.

Parking tickets from Molenbeek were found inside the car with Belgian license plates, Belgian media said.

The media reported that at least five people were arrested during the raids, but the number was not confirmed officially.

In Paris, several witnesses reported that some of the attackers arrived in a vehicle with Belgian license plates.

Another person has died following yesterday’s attack. Almost 500 people have either died or been injured.

The UK’s Foreign Office has confirmed that at least one Briton is among the dead.

Prime Minister David Cameron had earlier warned of the possibility of “a number” of British victims.

The Paris prosecutor has said that yesterday’s coordinated terror attack was carried out by three separate teams working together.

Parisians who live near the Le Carillon café where 14 people were gunned down last night describe their horror and fear after finding out what happened.

One says that going out for a Coca-cola and a chat are parts of everyday life in Paris.

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Paris prosecutor Francois Molins has given some more details of the current state of the investigation.

He says that seven terrorists carried out the attack and that a passport found near one of the suicide bombers says that he was a 25-year-old Syrian national.

Molins said the attackers had worked in three teams, striking seven times in quick succession on Friday night.

“A Syrian passport in the name of a person born in Syria in September 1990 was found near a suicide bomber who blew himself up at the Stade de France,” Molins told a press conference.

The family of British citizen Nick Alexander have released a statement after his death in last night’s terror attack was confirmed.

Alexander was working in the Bataclan theatre when the two gunman stormed the concert and began murdering those in attendance.

His family say that he was ‘generous, funny and fiercely loyal’.

Tomorrow’s Sunday papers are also likely to be dominated by the horrors of Paris. The Independent on Sunday says they’re standing in defiance.

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Some of the survivors of the attack on the Bataclan theatre have been telling AFP how they escaped the slaughter.

Loic Wiels said he could feel the bodies hitting the floor around him at the Paris music hall where team of assailants opened fire.

The bullets whizzed so close, he was hit by the wood splinters they sent flying. And under his feet he could feel the blood that had poured out of the wounded and the dead.

In the packed hall, which can hold up to 1,500 spectators, the rock group had been playing for about 45 minutes when the explosions rang out.

Someone in the audience joked: “It’s firecrackers.”

“I turn around and I see two guys with Kalashnikovs. They were dressed normally: jeans and sneakers. At first I thought they were shooting in the air. Then I saw people falling over,” said Sylvain Raballant, 42.

Everyone that was in the pit, like Wiels and Raballant, hit the floor.

“I saw three attackers, two of them clearly. One looked like a young guy, with a three-day beard. The other was closely shaved, wearing small eye glasses and some kind of yellow beret. He was also wearing what I took for a bullet-proof vest. It was actually an explosive vest,” said Wiels.

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Belgian police guard a street in Brussels on Saturday where arrests were made linked to the attacks in Paris.

A spokesperson for Belgium’s federal prosecutor’s office says the arrests came after a car with Belgian license plates was seen close to the Bataclan theatre.

More reports from the scene of the Pullman Hotel where a police operation is apparently ongoing.

A police operation underway at the Parisian hotel has led to the evacuation of the Eiffel Tower area which is just several hundred metres from hotel.

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France’s Interior Ministry has said that the police operation near the Eiffel Tower has been ruled as a ‘false alarm’.

The city is on high alert tonight.

Britain stands with its nearest neighbour.

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    Mute alwaysrightokay
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    Nov 14th 2015, 5:17 AM

    Fcuking animals

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    Mute Sarah Brener
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    Nov 14th 2015, 9:24 AM

    With uncontrolled influx of of kind of muslims into EU it will only get worse. Anybody who still have illusions about this and welcoming them here just lunaticly disconnected from reality.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 9:37 AM

    You know Islam and Muslim are 2 different religions right?

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    Nov 14th 2015, 9:52 AM

    Cam you explain Pater ???

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    Nov 14th 2015, 10:24 AM

    When you check Pater’s tweets ..mostly there to Babestation TV. .lol..lol may explain above comment . Islam is the religion. .Muslims are the followers.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 10:25 AM

    If Islam was a political party it would have been banned by now. Religion of peace my arse.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 10:27 AM

    He failed religion in his junior cert

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    Nov 14th 2015, 10:33 AM

    Can we look at facts here? The terrorist attacks in Europe of past have been cause by Islamic citizens of Europe not migrants. So before we cast a big net out let’s look closer to home.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 11:03 AM

    @James Darcy
    Just outlaw this so call religion, Ban it.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 11:18 AM

    Outlawing a religion will make it stronger. It would also offend one of the foundation values of France, Liberte, Egalite and Fraternite.

    We should not surrender to the agenda of terrorists, their commitment to set Western democracy and Islam at each others throats.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 11:19 AM

    Beirut was also targeted yesterday.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 11:20 AM

    And your point is James?, these Islamic citizens of Europe are sons and daughters of migrants.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 11:31 AM

    ISIS most likely . The rabid dog that some countries fed trained then let off the leash. Has came back to bite. French people should be demanding who how and when did this organisation get trained and funded from the begining or these attacks will continue. Without solution. Viva Le France and its people.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 11:51 AM

    #terrorismhasnoreligion

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    Nov 14th 2015, 12:24 PM

    It’s not just a religion, it’s a complete political ideology as outlined in their old book. As the old saying goes…there’s no such thing as moderate Islam only moderate Muslims. As for the Religion of Peace thing, it’s a strange thing to even say if you have ever read that book. Mind you, the Old Testament has some problems on that front too.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 12:31 PM

    But christianity practices the new testament, the product of a long haired hippy who would think twice about standing on an ant, but Mohammed well he seemed to have a desire for young girls and a penchant for cutting off the heads of infidels.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 1:47 PM

    When the IRA bombed Britain was is A. Christians bombing protestants B. Ireland bombing Britain or C. The IRA bombing Britain. People had the intelligence back then to understand it was C. So let’s hope people can differentiate between ISIS and 99.999% of normal Muslims who hold similar values to you and me.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 2:20 PM

    Outlaw the religion? Who is the ignorant one now!.. Leave your misguided hate out of this and focus on the terrorists in their 20-30k not 1bn.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 2:49 PM

    Yes but, in The North of Ireland, there were constant peace rallies and demonstrations against the violence from all sides. Where is the peace loving Muslim outrage of that 99.99%, I’ve a feeling there’s a few quiet fist-pumps being pulled in some corners of the Muslim world.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 3:09 PM

    I don’t remember Irish people in the south on the streets. I don’t remember Catholics the world over having to account for the actions of the IRA in the UK. This form of militant ‘Islam’ has its origins in cultural and political problems. As with the IRA, until those injustices are put to right, ISIS will still be able to recruit impressionable young men to its cause. Perhaps a lot of westerners also supported to some degree the illegal US/UK invasion of Iraq and killing of 1 million Iraqis too, but that does not mean they did it themselves.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 3:31 PM

    We should not let fear win this day, respect for everyone regardless of religion.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 4:19 PM

    “”End Islamophobia”, why do Muslims hate the French, the British, and the AAmericans so much?

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    Nov 14th 2015, 5:04 PM

    @Fiona deFreyne. Islam is not a religion Fiona. Islam is an Ideology masquerading as religion. Failing to understand this crucial difference has led us to last night’s disaster and many ,many more disasters to come until we are defeated.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 5:15 PM

    I’m thinking it was amazing how the Irish weren’t thrown out of england during the troubles and the borders closed to refuse entry. Its exactly the same difference, your ignorance blinds you all. No blacks ,No Irish and no dogs was the way not so long ago.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 5:16 PM

    @End Islamaphobia
    End Islam sounds better

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    Nov 14th 2015, 5:30 PM

    I see your point, Bren MC.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 5:49 PM

    Who killed these people you moron why bring Jesus into it ,your such a effing clown

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    Nov 14th 2015, 5:59 PM

    @James Darcy. Islam,the Ideology of Hate masquerading as a religion, spawns these terrorists. I note all the Ideology of Hate apologists are warning us of hate.Clever tactic but it won’t work this time.
    The correct advise is to focus on the big picture,Islam, the Ideology that spawns global terrorism.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 6:05 PM

    Yes, just imagine a political party with a militant faction…..

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    Nov 14th 2015, 6:38 PM

    All muslims are ‘religiously’ required to copy the example set by the founder of Islam, Muhammad, who was a vicious, mass-murdering paedophile, – so, to say Islam is not responsible is moronically disingenuous.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 6:56 PM

    religion is a crutch for weak people

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    Nov 14th 2015, 7:18 PM

    F24; one of bombers was syrian and crossed thru greece in october. Thanks Merkel you idiot. Return our Frigate now from the med and close borders and no refugees either. Sick of this.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 8:09 PM

    Sarah, what do you suggest we do about the hundreds of thousands of people that have been misplaced and who simply want to escape the absolute nightmare that they’re currently living with?

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    Nov 14th 2015, 8:55 PM

    I saw many young men saying they refuse to give finger print in Hungary on on RT news in september as they passed through. They also showed many discarded passports in the forest (afghan, pakisani etc). An academic from Damascus University said on RT news interview today about 20% of young male refugees are jihadi’s.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 8:56 PM

    @Bob

    Nothing. The money saved could be used to set up an anti terrorist response unit and educate Irish citizens about how to react to a terrorist attack. Together these measures could save Irish lives

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    Nov 14th 2015, 10:48 PM

    Patrick no crime being dumb or paranoid but being both is unlucky. Where do you come up with these conspiracy theories. Sorry for my late reply I’ve been hiding in the shadows with the evil Muslims.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 11:34 PM

    BLOOD ON YOUR HANDS HOLLANDE.

    BLOOD ON YOUR HANDS MULTICULTURALISM SUPPORTERS.

    BLOOD ON YOUR HANDS OPEN-BORDER NUTCASES.

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    Nov 15th 2015, 12:34 AM

    Multicultural supporters in a frenzy trying to spin damage limitation on this in case their multicultural project and open-borders flood invasion is stopped by Europeans. Tell Europeans:
    -these are just extremists or ‘fundamentalists’, this is not islam
    -they were justified because of western govt interference in ME
    -justified because we hurt muslims feelings with cartoons
    -IRA did bombings too not because of territory but because of religion and hurt feelings
    -mention christians in their own countries minding their own business are just as murderous as islam
    and just defend islam and attack whitey or christianity

    Meanwhile the cult of conquest (which is what the koran says to do)
    “As Paris Burned, UK Muslims Told To ‘Struggle’ For Islamic State In Unprecedented Islamist Show Of Force”
    http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/11/14/exclusive-as-paris-burned-uk-islamists-told-muslims-to-struggle-for-islamic-state-in-unprecedented-islamic-show-of-force/

    Denmark: Islamists March calling for sharia and jihad
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpY9j_mrABg

    Still think it’s “just extremist muslims” and islam is not a political ideology of conquest?

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    Nov 15th 2015, 2:24 AM

    Today new Poland ‘s government announced they won’t take 4,500 migrants proposed from Brussels new plan for migrants relocation.

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    Nov 15th 2015, 9:25 PM

    France: 30 airstrikes against RAQQA isis hq syria today. Also isis cross into eu posing as refugees:
    https://www.rt.com/news/314788-hungary-migrants-isis-terrorists/

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    Nov 14th 2015, 5:23 AM

    No more I say…. No damn more.. If you don’t agree with our western democratic way of lif , well then feck off to a backward place that’s into that… It’s time for us to fight back with a level of intolerance to these animals that hide behind the name of any religion and just wipe them out… No more I say… Time to fight back…

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    Nov 14th 2015, 7:43 AM

    Where have you been these past 14 years?

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    Nov 14th 2015, 8:26 AM

    The primary reason for this is not because they hate western democracy it’s because the west is meddling in the middle East

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    Nov 14th 2015, 8:31 AM

    It’s time for the West to stop interfering in middle eastern/Arabic/Muslim affairs.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 8:42 AM

    Get back under your bridge.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 8:53 AM

    The west’s interference in the middle east is irrelevant. These nutcases would do this regardless. Sure they attacked a magazine just because they drew cartoons. Stop trying to deflect responsibility from the backwards religious ideology of Islam. There is no justification for this.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 9:13 AM

    Of course there is no justification for this and I’m not deflecting anything but you are clearly clueless. The west has being meddling in the middle East for the past 100 years, facts are facts

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    Nov 14th 2015, 9:18 AM

    Of course there’s no justification for this. These attackers are monsters. To say they would have done this regardless is wrong though. In their minds they are hitting back against the West.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 9:39 AM

    No, in their mind they are fighting for their God against evil infidels. They want to convert the whole world to their murderous religion and they chose to do so by the sword. That’s a fact The west has interfered in countries all over the world from South America to East Asia. I don’t see them in the streets of Paris executing civilians. The difference is religion. The Middle East is such a disaster area because it’s a cesspool of religious hatred and bigotry within Islam and between the Abrahamic faiths.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 10:30 AM

    My EL531W exactly, but unfortunately the west is full of apologists for evil like David G, these apologists are nearly as evil as the fascist ideology they’re trying to defend!.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 10:55 AM

    @MyEL531w: Do you the west’s interference in the Middle East made stuff like this more or less likely to happen?

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    Nov 14th 2015, 11:31 AM

    Time for you to sod off back under your stone.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 12:26 PM

    The creation and rise of ISIS is a direct result of western interference in Iraq, Libya etc., this is a fact that even Tony Blair is starting to admit to. I’m not saying there would not have been Islamic terrorists if they hadn’t interfered, but the whole region was destabilised by illegal western interference.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 12:38 PM

    @William; How is looking at the bigger picture – i.e., that the long history of western interference in Middle Eastern governance potentiated attacks like these – defending what these animals did last night!?

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    Nov 14th 2015, 12:48 PM

    Vile ideologies exist all throughout the world. The question is what conditions are conducive to them gaining power and influence. You can’t remove or eradicate an ideology, it’s not possible but you can deal with the conditions it feeds off of.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 4:09 PM

    You really believe that David? Just wait until hits our streets in Ireland. The events of last night have been facilitated by generations of Muslims living in France and refusing to integrate. It was not an overnight phenomenon and takes years to put in place. The U.K. and Sweden are in the mid stages of the transformation and Ireland is in the early stages.

    Mark my words that what has happened in France, and what is happening in UK and Sweden will eventually occur in Ireland unless we learn from other’s mistakes and ditch the notion that multiculturalism works. We must stamp out radicalism and extremist preachers, embrace our cultural differences but also demand integration and respect for western values and culture. Pandering to minority sensitivities and eroding our own societal norms will not end peacefully.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 5:42 PM

    @David G. Islam has been attacking us for 1400 yrs. You are clearly clueless and trying to make excuses for a vicious hate-filled expansionist ideology.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 6:12 PM

    Clearly it makes it more likely to happen as it helps recruitment but to say it’s the only cause only shows you don’t understand what a large percentage of Muslims actually believe about spreading their faith. I take issue with trying to deflect blame to the west as it’s not the whole picture. It sounds like you’re defending their actions as a reasonable response. Like I said, there is NO justification. Most of of the 9/11 hijackers were Saudi and the only thing the west had done to them is give them a ton of money for their oil. We’ll wait and see where these people are from. My guess is second or third generation immigrants born in France. That would make them French. There is a clear disconnect of cause and affect. I feel the grievances of the Palestinian people but I’m not murdering innocent Israelis on the street. The only thing that links these people is Islam and even that seems flimsy considering the infighting. I’d imagine the biggest killer of Muslims is Muslims. It all seems like one giant excuse to do what they want to do anyway and boost recruitment. You’re feeding into that lie.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 6:24 PM
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    Nov 14th 2015, 6:34 PM

    @Monty Wuggy. We can also do what we would have done in the first place had we known that Islam is a vicious expansionary ideology masquerading as a religion attempting to subvert our civilization,ie. take away the religious status that allows it to subvert us in every possible way.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 7:01 PM

    why are you in Iraq? we’re looking for WMDs

    why are you in Afghanistan? we’re looking for bin laden

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    Nov 14th 2015, 7:08 PM

    there hasn’t been a just war since ww2

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    Nov 14th 2015, 5:20 AM

    My thoughts and prayers are with the people of France caught up in this atrocity.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 8:54 AM

    Update BBC . 128 Dead , 99 People Critical , 200 injured.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 10:41 AM

    Sympathies to all the families of the victims of last nights heinous attack, and the families of the victims of the bombing in Beirut a day prior.

    It’s important to recognise that it’s predominately Muslims who are most affected by Salafi jihadists and that’s all the more reason to provide a safe haven for the people who are fleeing their terror. If people truly care about confronting Islamic extremism they won’t vilify the majority of their victims. It’s also a fact that the most powerful form of resistance against ISIS has come from other Muslims, especially the Kurds. It’s important we empower the Muslims who are fighting ISIS and ensure they have the means to overcome their brutality and liberate the people who are subjected to horrific suffering. Just remember that when you’re demonising Muslims, you’re also demonising the ones trying to eradicate ISIS.

    People claim we shouldn’t politicise this event. It’s a reasonable request, people are emotionally hurt, and their focus is rightly on the victims of this attack. But this is a political attack, trying to shut down discussion about what leads to these acts of terror is also a form of politicisation. Saudi Arabia is the leading exponent and exporter of the kind of sectarian, divisive ideology espoused by ISIS. France, Britain and the United States all have strengthened and assisted that regime over the course of the last few decades. That has unintended consequences and one of them is the proliferation of radical Salafists who unlike the Saudi monarchy prioritise Jihad over money. Saudi Arabia is the elephant in the room and everyone knows it, but there is not much political will to do anything about it lest it destabilise those lucrative military contracts. Hopefully after this attack the deeply intimate relationship comes under considerably scrutiny.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 10:56 AM

    @Monty; Extremely well said! It’s important to keep in mind the bigger picture without getting sucked into the vicious feedback loop of hate.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 11:21 AM

    Month and Kugel, very true.

    The terrorists desire that feedback loop of hate, the Wet against Islam, Islam against the West in an ascending spiral of violence.

    The terrorists have an agenda, to use the provocation of extreme atrocities to ignite hate and counter aggression.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 11:30 AM

    The bigger picture is Monty these perpetrators were most likely sons of Algerian migrants whose grandparents migrated to France for a better life after France gave Algeria’s independence.

    What the f*ck have these citizens of France got to do with the middle east?, thats it keep on apologising for this evil religion, and that is the main catalyst for these attacks their sick effing religion.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 11:41 AM

    William: That is a disgustingly ahistorical take. France did not ‘liberate’ Algeria, it was liberated from them. A reminder that this was the worst attack in France, since the French slaughtered over 100 people for having the gall to attend a pro-Algerian demonstration. Algerians have suffered severe repression from the French due to their colonial rule. Statements like yours prove you have absolutely no interest in peace.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_massacre_of_1961

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    Nov 14th 2015, 11:47 AM

    So why migrate to France if France is so evil monty?, a simple answer will suffice instead of harping on about something 50 odd years ago?

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    Nov 14th 2015, 11:55 AM

    If any French Algerian Muslim has a probem living in France and feels oppressed that can easily relocate to Algeria or some other Islamic hellhole.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 11:56 AM

    Where did I claim France was evil? Many French people are disgusted by their countries role in colonialism and the murderous war in Algeria. The answer to why they fled is quite simple, to escape the perils of war. France may have been embroiled in a conflict but the majority of the victims were living in Algeria, not France. Does the fact that thousands of Irish live in Britain suddenly mean we forget the years of British oppression? No, and neither should Algerians.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 12:07 PM

    King Leopold’s Belgium got a very bad rap as far as colonialism is concerned, you don’t see the Congolese migrating in mass to Belgium to right a wrong that happened years ago, you live you learn and right the mistakes of the past.

    The problem in Paris Monty was not colonialism but a sick intolerant religion.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 12:23 PM

    The Yanks have committed all sorts of abuses in Latin America yet Latinos are not suicide bombing New York and L.A. I wonder why that is?

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    Nov 14th 2015, 12:33 PM

    @William; The Islamic State has claimed responsibility. They’re the ones orchestrating it, they’re the ones calling on ALL Muslims to wage Jihad in the West, so just because those that perpetuated last night’s atrocities were Algerian, that doesn’t mean they weren’t inspired by the situation in the Middle East. Also, when you consider that IS formed primarily in the massive vacuum left behind after the West disbanded the Iraqi army – leaving behind 600,000 unemployed, militarily-trained men – you can’t say that the attacks were not linked to the Middle East.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 12:34 PM

    You collectively punish Muslims, you inadvertently strengthen the Jihadist movement. We saw this unfold right before our eyes following 9-11. Jihadists explicitly express that these attacks are designed to polarise society and cause rifts leaving a gap for them to exploit.
    Personally, I’m more interested in weakening the Jihadist movement, so I won’t be playing into their hands and demonising Muslims, especially considering the fact they’re providing the most resistance to it. If you want to talk about ideology, look at Wahhabism and ask why the West have helped facilitate its ascension. The several facile takes on Islam may make Westerners feel good, but ultimately they’re futile. It won’t solve a thing.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 12:34 PM

    oops sertorious I wonder has it got something to do with that they don’t worship a guy called Allah and a homicidal maniac called Mohammed?

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    Nov 14th 2015, 12:37 PM

    Mr Boyd, you might like to know that one of the restaurants attacked in Paris last night, Le Carillion, is owned by an Algerian-French citizen. It’s clientele is very mixed.

    You should also read a little about the Algerian War of 1954-62. It might help you to understand the phrase ‘la Valise ou le Cercueil’ … and prevent you from posting nonsense like the comments above.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 12:53 PM

    @Sertorius; Western interference in the Middle East is a lot older than US interference in Latin America. The inhabitants of the Middle East are mainly Muslim so they’re more likely to turn to their faith when brutalised. However, what does it achieve to point the finger at the abiotic, amorphous Islamic faith? Do you outlaw Islam? If you just marginalised all 1.3 billion of them/ forced them all into one geographical region of earth so that they don’t mingle with the West, using your logic, would they ultimately not just keep waging Jihad until the entire world is a Caliphate?

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    Nov 14th 2015, 12:57 PM

    @William; As Monty has already said, do you not think that your type of reaction is exactly what these Jihadists organisations need to survive? Please explain if otherwise and please don’t just say that I’m in fact defending these organisations or some such BS.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 1:44 PM

    Notice our right wing commentators are fairly ignorant of history. No surprises there.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 2:50 PM

    The ‘Je Suis Charlies’ attackers were angered by seeing 11 year old prostitutes selling their bodies for food. The extreme poverty and virulent racism in France is a bigger factor than religion.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 3:11 PM

    Monty . President De Gaulle let all Algerians who wanted to come to France and gave them citizenship and they came in their thousands so France was a better Country than Algeria and the Algerians followed.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 4:02 PM

    Freedom of speech Carmo, and notice that most people do not resort to name calling when upset…..you could learn a thing or two from them!

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    Nov 14th 2015, 5:32 PM

    @Kugel Berg. What hate? Our young people were expressing joy and love at a concert when viciously attacked by the ‘religion of hate’. Others were gunned down on Tunisian beaches,bombed in Bangkok,bombed out of the sky in Sinai,etc. Becoming more frequent. Islam is at war with us as Islam dictates in its all holy unchangeable Koran.
    And you Kugle Berg,an Islamo- Apologist, have the temerity to warn us non-Muslims about hate.
    You go to hell KB.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 6:25 PM

    @Monty Wuggy. All that BS of yours Monty could be reduced to on sentence,ie.”Muslims are the REAL victims and it’s all the West’s fault”. The same mantra fromyou on all related topics.

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    Nov 15th 2015, 12:10 AM

    People are dying from Madrid, to London to Paris, over 2,000 girls were gang-raped and had petrol poured on them in UK, rape epidemics in most of the European countries, no-go areas for whites or christians, and what does Fiona deFreyne worry about?

    ……she displays fake concern about us all playing into the “terrorists” agenda, the real danger according to her, is that it is the west vs islam…..camouflaging her own agenda of open-borders and multiculturalism, she is sh!!tless all that will end, that is all she is really concerned about, so too with all these no-borders lunatics

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    Nov 15th 2015, 10:59 AM

    @Patrick; These Jihadist animals – the attacks which they committed are INDEFENSIBLE – WANT us to hate Muslims. They depend on people like YOU to preach hatred of Muslims as it makes it more likely that they’ll feel like they’ll never fit in to western society. THAT is a feedback loop of hate. NOWHERE did I say those people attending the concert were full of hate btw, but because you only see in black and white you want to believe that I defend what those terrorists did – they had a choice and they made it. But you tar all with the same brush, which is exactly what Islamic terror groups want – you’re a great recruiting agent! I mean, one witness said that the shooters targeted wheelchair users in particular – disgusting I know – which just functions to make us more disgusted at Muslims and therefore strengthen their cause.

    People like you really make me despair for the future of mankind.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 5:53 AM

    This will get worse and worse, – & there is no peaceful solution.
    It’s time to call a spade a spade, and stop calling Islam a ‘religion of peace’ – it is a criminal organization, a death-cult whose followers are sworn by the koran to murder us all.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 6:26 AM

    I work with a few Muslims, might have to ring the boss on Monday morning and explain to him that I can’t come into work until they get rid of that seemingly nice chap in Networks. I was fooled by his friendly manner and the fact that he never mentioned religion and integrated well with the rest of the lads – Thanks Vladimir for giving me the heads up that he is out to “murder us all”.

    The world has a serious problem and Muslims need to step up and take a lead in sorting it and that means eradicating those isis filth but lets not lose sight that most people lead their lives with the same daily struggles we do and don’t have any intention of murdering anyone. Wipe the rest off the planet though.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 7:06 AM

    I used to go for pints with a few Muslims, – great craic, but they will never condemn the actions of these so-called ‘extremists’, – they will always blame west for provoking the ‘extremists’ to commit atrocities, and they have all their arguments well rehearsed.
    I strongly suspect that, behind closed doors, they are all the same.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 7:29 AM

    And based on your ‘strong suspicions’ Vlad we should what? Interment without trial, mass deportations, Separate laws for them, no political rights?

    Their arguments might have more than a grain of truth in them – but you can’t ask the 500,000 dead iraqis, killed because of WMD that existed only in one man’s mind.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 7:50 AM

    The Imam in the cultural learning centre in Blanchardstown has repeatedly warned that other mosques around the country have been inviting radical Muslims to our country to preach their hatred to young Irish Muslims. He has asked our government for help, he has publicly stated what is going on in certain mosques but nothing has happened. The powers that be are too concerned about causing offence and looking bad. What is it going to take for them to listen to this man?

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    Nov 14th 2015, 8:46 AM

    The Imam from blanch is the chap that headed the Muslims for peace march on O Connell Street. Less than 30 Muslims were at that march! Out of 60.000 muslims in Ireland. He is not liked in muslim circles. He was asked to leave the mosque in Clonskeagh when he tried to pin up posters for the march in Clonskeagh. As we all know the real power in Ireland for the Muslim’s in Ireland is generated from Clonskeagh where the Head Imam is, the boss man there also happens to be the Father of the “Irish Citizen locked up in Egypt Ibrahim Halawa. Incidentally there has never been a word from his Father the Head Imam on his sons plight in egypt. More than likely because he supports his sons ideal on the Muslim Brotherhood.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 8:56 AM

    The Clonskeagh mosque is an unsavoury place.
    Believe me, I knew two Bahraini guys who tried to go there around the time of Ken Bigley’s murder, and I’ve heard stories.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 9:38 AM

    @ Vladimir. I have a theory that inside every moderate muslim is a radical muslim trying to break out.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 10:41 AM

    Paul, I have a theory that your lacking a couple of chromosomes.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 12:29 PM

    Vladimir they are not strict Muslims if they drink pints. Either that or you are spoofing.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 12:53 PM

    Thru have a bit of a point.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 12:55 PM

    With the influx of refugees from Syria, and the refusal of Clonskeagh to condemn these acts, does any one worry it may just be a matter of time before we have an atrocity on our own shores? We might not be an obvious target, but countless multinational corporations here could be…..

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    Nov 15th 2015, 1:53 AM

    Andrea, simple solution. Shut down the mosques in Ireland. I cant open a Church in Saudi either. Was offered a job in Saudi but discovered my wife is not even allowed to go out own her own there and not allowed drive. She must hand in her passport to Border Police. Only if I gave them permission to give her passport back to her could she even travel back out of Saudi ! Didnt take the job.

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    Nov 16th 2015, 3:50 AM

    George W Bush
    Tony Blair
    Colin Powell
    Dick Cheney
    Conned Us Lisa Rice

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    Nov 14th 2015, 5:20 AM

    Has there been any word out of MB Clonskeagh condemning these murders? I won’t hold my breath.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 8:59 AM

    Probably f@€king celebrating.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 12:59 PM

    I dunno but I didn’t hear much outrage from Christian leaders after any of the high school shootings in America. I certainly don’t feel any responsibility or guilt over murders carried out by republicans in my name and I imagine it’s the same thing when it comes to the average Muslim after something like this.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 3:53 PM

    Well 10 hours is a long time to hold your breath, Rowe, but here it is:

    http://www.islamireland.ie/news/press-release-major-islamic-organizations-in-ireland-condemn-paris-shootings/

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    Nov 14th 2015, 5:31 PM

    @John H
    pathetic attempt of a statement,it must be a first for fear of reprisals, i don’t believe a word of it is honest. Let them take to the Radio/TV denouncing these attacks I want to see their faces,hear the honesty in their voices loud and clear & not hiding behind some impotent statement that some solicitor of theirs typed up.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 8:34 PM

    Rowe, I note the shift in your goalposts. Notwithstanding the very distinct possibility that their statement isn’t fully heartfelt by every single Muslim in Ireland, I accept that “Clonskeagh” sees “Kuffar point of view”.

    I feel sure it’s somewhere between 92% and 99.8% genuine.

    However, I get this feeling that your demands can never be satisfied

    I find I trust in “Clonskeagh” more than you.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 8:21 AM

    Time to bring back European border control for good. I’m sorry but look what has happened. God knows who else came in across Europe during the latest wave of “asylum” seekers. I fear it’s too late though. These animals have made their way in and our way of life is under threat by these religious murdering animals. Is it any wonder people are wary-of muslims

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    Nov 14th 2015, 6:48 PM

    @Phil Keenan. And here’s the animals celebrating the Paris killings in Sweden.
    —”Hundreds of Muslims in Sweden celebrate Paris terrorist attack on a FB page declaring, “Islam will take over the world—”
    http://www.jewsnews.co.il/2015/01/08/hundreds-of-muslims-in-sweden-celebrate-paris-terrorist-attack-on-a-fb-page-declaring-islam-will-take-over-the-world/

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    Nov 14th 2015, 8:40 PM

    Terrible. Sweden is screwed Patrick. It also has come to light that passports at the scene belong to someone who landed in Greece in October! How many terrorists did the Irish navy heroically saved over the summer?? Also congratulations to merkel for throwing the doors open. Europe has stage 4 cancer that has spread very quickly. Major trouble ahead

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    Nov 14th 2015, 9:17 PM

    Phil, Ireland is culpable. Our Fregate is the most advanced in area and used as spotter. News 3 days ago line of EU rescue boats collect “refugee” only 13km from libyan coast. They use only rubber boats now as they know they will be collected. ENDA Kenny needs to withdraw ship now and cancel immigration plans just like Poland PM did today.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 10:36 PM

    @Phil Keenan. Well said Phil. Keep up the good posting.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 11:51 PM

    Bang on Gregory

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    Nov 14th 2015, 11:53 PM

    Patrick ill . I just dont get the musl

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    Nov 14th 2015, 11:54 PM

    Typo error. I just dont get the islam love in thats going on.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 11:55 PM

    True that Greg

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    Nov 14th 2015, 5:18 AM

    “Islam was never a religion of peace. Islam is the religion of fighting. No-one should believe that the war that we are waging is the war of the Islamic State. It is the war of all Muslims, but the Islamic State is spearheading it. It is the war of Muslims against infidels.”- Abu Bakar Al Baghdadi (leader of ISIS)

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    Nov 14th 2015, 5:21 AM

    Oh shut your mouth, with your xenophobia. Go read the daily mail

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    Nov 14th 2015, 5:30 AM

    So because of minority extremists you’re tarring over a billion Muslims? That’s a sound, logical thought process going on there

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    Nov 14th 2015, 5:44 AM

    Surely this is Religiophbia. And by the actions of many followers of the Islam over the last 15 years this fear is justified.
    You simple do not see westerners going into centres of high Islamic population just to cause death and destruction.
    If the people of Islam are serious about being a religion of peace, they need to ensure that those with a warped sense of reality are neutralised within their communities.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 6:26 AM

    If you follow a man of violence like Mohammed, how can you be a man of peace?

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    Nov 14th 2015, 6:30 AM

    Brains : how is over a billion people a minority , it’s time to get real , there is so much trouble in Muslim countries cause they are brought up to hate, they hate each other they hate women they hate the western world , ,it’s a religion a region built on hatred probably worse than that the hate themselves , they can’t live a life of fun & love & freedom , there religion & nationality constricts & compounds them so much they have a hatred to their since of worthless, Islam is about suffering , they suffer cause their to weak to say no to a culture of when ur alive your worthless , a religion of when ur dead u become a martyr your not worthless anymore .
    That’s why Islam should be condemned .
    When the Catholic church was exposed for all the abuse in resent years , people did not remain strong to their religion their church , they said enough & walked away , u won’t see that of the Muslim community .

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    Nov 14th 2015, 7:22 AM

    Seriously Ted??? ‘You simple do not see westerners going into centres of high Islamic population just to cause death and destruction’

    Is your memory that short that you don’t recollect Bush and Blair, WMD?. Iraq and Afghanistan are still going on – including the bombing of an MSF hospital in Afg 2 weeks ago.
    ‘A later study, published in 2011, estimated that approximately 500,000 Iraqis had died as a result of the conflict since the invasion’
    I understand people being emotive over a tragedy like this, but a sense of perspective is more important

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    Nov 14th 2015, 7:22 AM

    Get hysterical much?

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    Nov 14th 2015, 7:23 AM

    @Gar

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    Nov 14th 2015, 8:40 AM

    @Gar Bury your soft liberal head in the sand all you want but this is what Islam is about there are verses after verse permitting these kind of atrocities the difference is a few centuries of time.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 8:54 AM

    The Sunni extremists are the most violent ones.They are pouring into Europe at present.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 8:54 AM

    “sense of Perspective ” u can keep that phrase for the water rates or a rugby or soccer match .
    There are nearly 200 people murdered on the streets of France , these are ordinary people , going to a concert , at a restaurant , going to a soccer match , this makes all of us scared & saddened , cause these are the things we all enjoy in cities all over the world , this is an attack on the world as we like to enjoy it .
    The perspective is that the people dead could be anyone of us enjoying a night out .

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    Nov 14th 2015, 9:03 AM

    Care to quote some of those passages Rowe?

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    Nov 14th 2015, 9:03 AM

    Gerry, how many of that 500,000 you say were killed in Iraq were killed by American or British soldiers. I’d suggest it was a tiny fraction. The vast majority were killed by other Muslims. American and British soldiers were killed also in huge numbers trying to protect them from each other. And to the coalitions eternal credit they stayed the corse on till democracy was firmly bedded down despite people like you saying they should of got out much earlier, and guess what when they did get out after Obama came to power in an attempt to appease people like you did pull out and a lot of the progress made was lost and we are seen the sad result of that now in large parts of Iraq. George Bush was right in his premise that you send troops in and fight and kill them in the Middle East or they’ll come and fight and kill you in New York, Paris, London and perhaps soon Dublin. There is no third option. They hate us and will try to kill us regardless whether your liberal or conservative, right left, black or white. And before you throw in the stupid and standard response of the WMD that were never found. Remember this WMDs were used in Iraq by Sadam against his own people who he killed in huge numbers at will before the invasion. They may not of been found but they did undeniably exist.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 9:06 AM

    @Gerry Grimes

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    Nov 14th 2015, 9:30 AM

    Stephen, still fighting Tony and George’s corner so long after they themselves have as much as conceded the idiocy of what they did.
    Some might say that that takes balls, I’d say it demonstrates a lack of a functioning brain.
    How is life on planet Jupiter?

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    Nov 14th 2015, 9:44 AM

    Ted, I understand your point of view, but here’s the problem. Westerners do go into other countries and kill for military, economic, political, strategic and ideological reasons, except we justify it as in the national, international, present and future good. Being more refined in how we kill and destroy (or what we turn a blind eye to) does not make the West that much better and we need to consistently address this. IT DOES NOT JUSTIFY WHAT HAPPENED IN PARIS, but we need to be more honest with ourselves, because we’re suffering collectively from a kind of brainwashing about this.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 9:48 AM

    @Eamonn do your own research  TheReligionofPeace.com Guide to Understanding Islam     What does the  Religion of Peace Teach About… Violence    Question: Does the Quran really contain dozens of verses promoting violence? Summary Answer: The Quran contains at least 109 verses that call Muslims to war with nonbelievers for the sake of Islamic rule.  Some are quite graphic, with commands to chop off heads and fingers and kill infidels wherever they may be hiding.  Muslims who do not join the fight arecalled ’hypocrites’ and warned that Allah will send them to Hell if they do not join the slaughter. Unlike nearly all of the Old Testament verses of violence, the verses of violence in the Quran are mostly open-ended, meaning that they are not restrained by the historical context of the surrounding text.  They are part of the eternal, unchanging word of Allah, and just as relevant or subject to interpretation as anything else in the Quran.   The context of violent passages is more ambiguous than might be expected of a perfect book from a loving God; however this works both ways.  Most of today’s Muslims exercise a personal choice to interpret their holy book’s call to arms according to their own moral preconceptions about justifiable violence.  Apologists cater to their preferences with tenuous arguments that gloss over historical fact and generally do not stand up to scrutiny.  Still, it is important to note that the problem is not bad people, but bad ideology. Unfortunately, there are very few verses of tolerance and peace to abrogate or even balance out the many that call for nonbelievers to be fought and subdued until they either accept humiliation, convert to Islam, or are killed.  Muhammad’s own martial legacy – and that of his companions – along with the remarkable stress on violence found in the Quran have produced a trail of blood and tears across world history. The Quran: Quran (2:191-193) - ”And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah [disbelief or unrest] is worse than killing… .. and so on

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    Nov 14th 2015, 9:50 AM

    Eamonn, defending freedom and democracy is never idiotic, whether it’s the Middle East, Europe or America. It is extremely difficult granted but never idiotic. Your freedom and democracy was hard won also. Remember that. Just as well it was though because I’d hate to be relying on soft headed brain dead liberal idiots like you to stand up and fight for anything now.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 9:59 AM

    The Shoe Bomber was a Muslim
    The Beltway Snipers were Muslims
    The Fort Hood Shooter was a Muslim
    The underwear Bomber was a Muslim
    The U-S.S. Cole Bombers were Muslims
    The Madrid Train Bombers were Muslims
    The Bafi Nightclub Bombers were Muslims
    The London Subway Bombers were Muslims
    The Moscow Theatre Attackers were Muslims
    The Boston Marathon Bombers were Muslims
    The Pan-Am flight #93 Bombers were Muslims
    The Air France Entebbe Hijackers were Muslims
    The Iranian Embassy Takeover, was by Muslims
    The Beirut U.S. Embassy bombers were Muslims
    The Libyan U.S. Embassy Attack was by Musiims
    The Buenos Aires Suicide Bombers were Muslims
    The Israeli Olympic Team Attackers were Muslims
    The Kenyan U.S, Embassy Bombers were Muslims
    The Saudi, Khobar Towers Bombers were Muslims
    The Beirut Marine Barracks bombers were Muslims
    The Besian Russian School Attackers were Muslims
    The first World Trade Center Bombers were Muslims
    The Bombay & Mumbai India Attackers were Muslims
    The Achille Lauro Cruise Ship Hijackers were Muslims
    The September 11th 2001 Airline Hijackers were Muslims’
    Think of it:
    Buddhists living with Hindus = No Problem
    Hindus living with Christians = No Problem
    Hindus living with Jews = No Problem
    Christians living with Shintos = No Problem
    Shintos living with Confucians = No Problem
    Confusians living with Baha’is = No Problem

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    Nov 14th 2015, 10:05 AM

    Confusians living with Baha’is = No Problem
    Baha’is living with Jews = No Problem
    Jews living with Atheists = No Problem
    Atheists living with Buddhists = No Problem
    Buddhists living with Sikhs = No Problem
    Sikhs living with Hindus = No Problem
    Hindus living with Baha’is = No Problem
    Baha’is living with Christians = No Problem
    Christians living with Jews = No Problem
    Jews living with Buddhists = No Problem
    Buddhists living with Shintos = No Problem
    Shintos living with Atheists = No Problem
    Atheists living with Confucians = No Problem
    Confusians living with Hindus = No Problem

    Muslims living with Hindus = Problem
    Muslims living with Buddhists = Problem
    Muslims living with Christians = Problem
    Muslims living with Jews = Problem
    Muslims living with Sikhs = Problem
    Muslims living with Baha’is = Problem
    Muslims living with Shintos = Problem
    Muslims living with Atheists = Problem
    MUSLIMS LIVING WITH MUSLIMS = BIG PROBLEM
    **********SO THIS LED TO ****************
    They’re not happy in Gaza
    They’re not happy in Egypt
    They’re not happy in Libya
    They’re not happy in Morocco
    They’re not happy in Iran
    They’re not happy in Iraq
    They’re not happy in Yemen
    They’re not happy in Afghanistan

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    Nov 14th 2015, 10:12 AM

    I work with a muslim guy and he does’nt like the weather in Ireland.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 10:14 AM

    “Christians living with Jews = No Problem”

    They’re was that one thing though wasn’t there? What was it called again? Oh yeah, the Holocaust.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 10:22 AM

    That’s because irish weather is Muslim, Sometimes Sunni but mostly Shiite

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    Nov 14th 2015, 10:23 AM

    2:65 Allah transforms disobedient Jews into apes “And well you know there were those among you [Jews] that transgressed the Sabbath, and We said to them, ‘Be you apes, miserably slinking!’ 2:89 Unbelievers, particularly Jews, are accursed “When there came to them [Jews] a Book from Allah, confirming what was with them — and they aforetimes prayed for victory over the unbelievers — when there came to them that they recognized, they disbelieved in it; and the curse of Allah is on the unbelievers. 2:191-193 Fight and kill unbelievers until “religion is Allah’s,” i.e. Islamic law rules all societies “And slay them wherever you come upon them, and expel them from where they expelled you; persecution is more grievous than slaying. But fight them not by the Holy Mosque until they should fight you there; then, if they fight you, slay them — such is the recompense of unbelievers, but if they give over, surely Allah is All-forgiving, All-compassionate. Fight them, till there is no persecution and the religion is Allah’s; then if they give over, there shall be no enmity save for evildoers.” 3:28 Don’t take unbelievers as friends and allies, unless it is for “fear of them,” i.e. deceptively for protection of oneself or of Islam “Let not the believers take the unbelievers for friends, rather than the believers — for whoso does that belongs not to Allah in anything — unless you have a fear of them. Allah warns you that You beware of Him, and unto Allah is the homecoming.” 3:110-112 Muslims are the best of people, Jews have earned Allah’s anger “You are the best nation ever brought forth to men, bidding to honour, and forbidding dishonour, and believing in Allah. Had the People of the Book believed, it were better for them; some of them are believers, but the most of them are ungodly. They will not harm you, except a little hurt; and if they fight with you, they will turn on you their backs; then they will not be helped. Abasement shall be pitched on them, wherever they are come upon, except they be in a bond of Allah, and a bond of the people; they will be laden with the burden of Allah’s anger, and poverty shall be pitched on them; that, because they disbelieved in Allah’s signs, and slew the Prophets without right; that, for that they acted rebelliously and were transgressors.” 3:151 Allah will cast terror into the unbelievers’ hearts “We will cast into the hearts of the unbelievers terror, for that they have associated with Allah that for which He sent down never authority; their lodging shall be the Fire; evil is the lodging of the evildoers.” 3:181 Jews are bound for hell “Allah has heard the saying of those who said, ‘Surely Allah is poor, and we are rich.’ We shall write down what they have said, and their slaying the Prophets without right, and We shall say, ‘Taste the chastisement of the burning.’” 4:34 Beat disobedient women “Men are the managers of the affairs of women for that Allah has preferred in bounty one of them over another, and for that they have expended of their property. Righteous women are therefore obedient, guarding the secret for Allah’s guarding. And those you fear may be rebellious admonish; banish them to their couches, and beat them. If they then obey you, look not for any way against them; Allah is All-high, All-great.” 4:160 Jews do evil, turn people away from Allah “And for the evildoing of those of Jewry, We have forbidden them certain good things that were permitted to them, and for their barring from Allah’s way many…” 5:33 Crucify or amputate the hands and feet of those who make war against Allah and Muhammad “This is the recompense of those who fight against Allah and His Messenger, and hasten about the earth, to do corruption there: they shall be slaughtered, or crucified, or their hands and feet shall alternately be struck off; or they shall be banished from the land. That is a degradation for them in this world; and in the world to come awaits them a mighty chastisement.” 5:41 Jews listen to falsehood and pervert the meaning of their Scriptures “O Messenger, let them not grieve thee that vie with one another in unbelief, such men as say with their mouths ‘We believe’ but their hearts believe not; and the Jews who listen to falsehood, listen to other folk, who have not come to thee, perverting words from their meanings, saying, ‘If you are given this, then take it; if you are not given it, beware!’ Whomsoever Allah desires to try, thou canst not avail him anything with Allah. Those are they whose hearts Allah desired not to purify; for them is degradation in this world; and in the world to come awaits them a mighty chastisement.” 5:51 Don’t take Jews and Christians as friends and allies “O believers, take not Jews and Christians as friends; they are friends of each other. Whoso of you makes them his friends is one of them. Allah guides not the people of the evildoers.” 5:59-60 Jews cursed, made into apes and swine “Say: ‘People of the Book, do you blame us for any other cause than that we believe in Allah, and what has been sent down to us, and what was sent down before, and that most of you are ungodly?’ Say: ‘Shall I tell you of a recompense with Allah, worse than that? Whomsoever Allah has cursed, and with whom He is wroth, and made some of them apes and swine, and worshippers of idols — they are worse situated, and have gone further astray from the right way.’” 5:64 Jews accursed “The Jews have said, ‘Allah’s hand is fettered.’ Fettered are their hands, and they are cursed for what they have said. Nay, but His hands are outspread; He expends how He will. And what has been sent down to thee from thy Lord will surely increase many of them in insolence and unbelief; and We have cast between them enmity and hatred, till the Day of Resurrection. As often as they light a fire for war, Allah will extinguish it. They hasten about the earth, to do corruption there; and Allah loves not the workers of corruption.” 5:72 Christians are unbelievers “They are unbelievers who say, ‘Allah is the Messiah, Mary’s son.’ For the Messiah said, ‘Children of Israel, serve God, my Lord and your Lord. Verily whoso associates with Allah anything, Allah shall prohibit him entrance to Paradise, and his refuge shall be the Fire; and wrongdoers shall have no helpers.’” 5:82 Jews most hostile to the Muslims “Thou wilt surely find the most hostile of men to the believers are the Jews and the idolaters; and thou wilt surely find the nearest of them in love to the believers are those who say ‘We are Christians’; that, because some of them are priests and monks, and they wax not proud.” 6:91 Jews deny, conceal divine revelations “They measured not Allah with His true measure when they said, ‘Allah has not sent down aught on any mortal.’ Say: ‘Who sent down the Book that Moses brought as a light and a guidance to men? You put it into parchments, revealing them, and hiding much; and you were taught that you knew not, you and your fathers.’ Say: ‘Allah.’ Then leave them alone, playing their game of plunging.” 6:146 Jews insolent “And to those of Jewry We have forbidden every beast with claws; and of oxen and sheep We have forbidden them the fat of them, save what their backs carry, or their entrails, or what is mingled with bone; that We recompensed them for their insolence; surely We speak truly.” 7:166 Jews are apes “And when they [Jews] turned in disdain from that forbidding We said to them, ‘Be you apes, miserably slinking!’” 8:12 Allah will terrorize unbelievers; Muslims should behead them “When thy Lord was revealing to the angels, ‘I am with you; so confirm the believers. I shall cast into the unbelievers’ hearts terror; so smite above the necks, and smite every finger of them!’” 8:39 Fight unbelievers until Islam reigns supreme “Fight them, till there is no persecution and the religion is Allah’s entirely; then if they give over, surely Allah sees the things they do.” 8:60 Make war against enemies of Allah “Make ready for them whatever force and strings of horses you can, to terrify thereby the enemy of Allah and your enemy, and others besides them that you know not; Allah knows them. And whatsoever you expend in the way of Allah shall be repaid you in full; you will not be wronged.” 9:5 Slay the idolaters “Then, when the sacred months are drawn away, slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them, and confine them, and lie in wait for them at every place of ambush. But if they repent, and perform the prayer, and pay the alms, then let them go their way; Allah is All-forgiving, All-compassionate.” 9:28 Idolaters unclean “O believers, the idolaters are indeed unclean; so let them not come near the Holy Mosque after this year of theirs. If you fear poverty, Allah shall surely enrich you of His bounty, if He will; Allah is All-knowing; All-wise.” 9:29 Fight and subjugate the Jews and Christians “Fight those who believe not in Allah and the Last Day and do not forbid what Allah and His Messenger have forbidden — such men as practise not the religion of truth, being of those who have been given the Book — until they pay the tribute out of hand and have been humbled.” 9:30 Jews and Christians assailed by Allah “The Jews say, ‘Ezra is the Son of Allah’; the Christians say, ‘The Messiah is the Son of Allah.’ That is the utterance of their mouths, conforming with the unbelievers before them. Allah assail them! How they are perverted!” 9:31 Jews and Christians have taken their clergy and holy men as lords “They have taken their rabbis and their monks as lords apart from Allah, and the Messiah, Mary’s son — and they were commanded to serve but One Allah; there is no god but He; glory be to Him, above that they associate.” 9:73 Be harsh with unbelievers “O Prophet, struggle with the unbelievers and hypocrites, and be thou harsh with them; their refuge is Gehenna — an evil homecoming!” 9:111 Paradise guaranteed to those who kill and are killed for Allah “Allah has bought from the believers their selves and their possessions against the gift of Paradise; they fight in the way of Allah; they kill, and are killed; that is a promise binding upon Allah in the Torah, and the Gospel, and the Koran; and who fulfils his covenant truer than Allah? So rejoice in the bargain you have made with Him; that is the mighty triumph.” 9:123 Fight the unbelievers, be harsh with them “O believers, fight the unbelievers who are near to you; and let them find in you a harshness; and know that Allah is with the godfearing.” 47:4 Behead and slaughter the unbelievers; take others captive “When you meet the unbelievers, smite their necks, then, when you have made wide slaughter among them, tie fast the bonds; then set them free, either by grace or ransom, till the war lays down its loads. So it shall be; and if Allah had willed, He would have avenged Himself upon them; but that He may try some of you by means of others. And those who are slain in the way of Allah, He will not send their works astray.” 48:29 Be merciful to believers, not unbelievers “Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah, and those who are with him are hard against the unbelievers, merciful one to another.” 62:6 Jews should long for death “Say: ‘You of Jewry, if you assert that you are the friends of Allah, apart from other men, then do you long for death, if you speak truly.’” 98:6 Unbelievers are the worst of creatures “The unbelievers of the People of the Book and the idolaters shall be in the Fire of Gehenna, therein dwelling forever; those are the worst of creatures.”

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    Nov 14th 2015, 10:24 AM

    @ Carmo. What are you talking about? What’s the Holocaust got to do with his point? Jews lived happily all over Europe with Christians especially in Germany for centuries until mad Adolph came along.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 10:27 AM

    @Liam Nolan. At bit on the long side there, Liam but we get the point.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 10:29 AM

    If Adolf was responsible for that, please name the person responsible for this and we can sort it all out.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 10:36 AM

    Jeez Paul, you are one ignorant mofo.
    It’s ignorance like your’s that causes tragedies like this.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 10:36 AM

    @Gar
    so you call me a Xenophobe for quoting the murdering leader of ISIS saying it how it is on a thread where the French government blame ISIS for last nights atrocities, is that right?????

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    Nov 14th 2015, 10:38 AM

    Educate yourself you absolute tool:
    http://www.ushmm.org/confront-antisemitism/european-antisemitism-from-its-origins-to-the-holocaust

    And your fking green thumbing idiot mates. Fcukwitz one and all.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 10:41 AM

    @Carmo. Make your point there Carmo and none of this name-calling business.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 10:52 AM

    You claimed anti-semitism only existed with Hitler. Now that’s patently ignorant. Are you prepared to admit that?

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    Nov 14th 2015, 11:03 AM

    @stephen
    ‘Defending freedom and democracy’
    My God, the propaganda has seeped down to the marrow of your bones by the sound of it.
    Just do a bit of reading about petrodollars and Saddam Hussein’s selling of oil in €€, then tell me that a single bullet was fired in Iraq ‘defending freedom and democracy’.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 11:32 AM

    Yeah can press red thumb or green thumb but can’t formulate an argument or use a keyboard. Idiots.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 11:36 AM

    @Carmo. If you weren’t so quick to resort to name-calling, people might have some regard for what you say.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 11:54 AM

    Larry, honestly your full of shit, for one that Tripura group in India, backed by the baptist church, who carry out attacks on Hindus . One of many Christian terrorist groups around the world whose aim is to kill anyone who doesn’t have the same beliefs as them.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 12:05 PM

    Tell we are awfully sorry about that, as you know Enda says the Irish people are very generous and Christian-like so we will try our best with whatever resources we can muster, to change the weather for him . Again on behalf of the Irish people I am sorry he was misled.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 1:16 PM

    I know it’s hard to admit Eamon that your wrong about everything but you are I’m afraid. Before the invasion of Iraq oil was far Cheeper than it is now and it has actually fallen 50% in last few years. So only an idiot could argue it was cheap and secure oil that was the motive for going into Iraq. The reason was to bring freedom and democracy to the region and hopefully have a friend in Iraq rather than an enemy. That has been achieved and the west has an ally in Iraq and despite what you wrongly believe the Iraqi people would dearly love to see British and American troops return to protect them from these savages in Islamic state. But of corse you and your self loathing anti west pals would rather see them continue to be slaughtered every day than admit that fact.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 3:02 PM

    Awwere

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    Nov 14th 2015, 6:19 PM

    only happy when they die

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    Nov 14th 2015, 7:30 PM

    What about the rest of the world?
    Did it not know the intentions of the Third Reich?
    Did it not hear the words of Hitler’s broadcast all over the world?
    Did it not read his intentions in Mein Kampf, published in every corner of the world?

    Where’s the responsibility of the Soviet Union, who signed in 1939 the pact with Hitler, enabled him to make war?
    Are we not to find Russia guilty?

    Where’s the responsibility of the Vatican, who signed in 1933 the Concordat with Hitler, giving him his first tremendous prestige?
    Are we not to find the Vatican guilty?

    Where’s the responsibility of the world leader, Winston Churchill, who said in an open letter to the London Times in 1938 — 1938!! Your Honor — “were England to suffer national disaster should pray to God to send a man of the strength of mind and will of an Adolf Hitler!”
    Are we not to find Winston Churchill guilty?

    Where is the responsibility of those American industrialists, who helped Hitler to rebuild his armaments and profited by that rebuilding?!!
    Are we not to find the American industrialists guilty?

    No, Your Honor. No!
    Germany alone is not guilty:
    The whole world is as responsible for Hitler’s Germany.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 8:53 PM

    @Paul Fanshawe.@Liam Nolan…..A wee bit but good for making a copy and reading over a pint with friends.
    Also I recommend a short extremely useful book for all to get a grip on what Islam is all about in a short time 2hrs.. http://www.thestoryofmohammed.blogspot.ie/ by Harry Richardson. Can be ordered from Dubrays on Grafton St. or read free online above.

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    Nov 15th 2015, 2:37 AM

    And according to the bible Christians should avoid shellfish, all religions make The Brother;s Grimm look like reality TV producers. Whatever people chose to believe that’s fine but remember the catholic church condemns gays to hell-fire unless they don’t embrace. What we need to understand purely from the point of view of self preservation) is why these people are open and malleable enough to be turned into killers. We need to turn off the supply of killers at source by recognising and dealing with the causes of this psychopathy.

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    Nov 15th 2015, 2:47 AM

    Does the bible not include loads of verses about killing the enemies of Christianity, FIs contraception not specifically prohibited? Do we not chose to ignore these. I had a muslim flatmate in college in Liverpool Polytech who wanted to read The Satanic Versres in order to make his own mind up. Labelling all Muslims from a few selected quotes is puerile. By the way I have no religion but try to tolerate all peoples and not lazily label

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    Nov 15th 2015, 2:53 AM

    So, why weren’t the same forces in to regions where no oil was involved like the Balkans or Rwanda ?

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    Nov 15th 2015, 9:39 AM

    One Christian ordered that, supported by a few others and not all Christians supported it or knew about it at the time.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 6:15 AM

    Vive la France.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 7:05 PM

    1 don’t mock peoples religion
    2 don’t join in when america likes to play air strikes

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    Mute Jason Culligan
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    Nov 14th 2015, 10:57 PM

    1. Don’t live in a country which espouses the right to free speech if you’re easily offended.

    2. Don’t bomb and gun down innocent civilians in our lands and our governments wouldn’t bomb your countries back into the Stone Age as a response.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 11:35 PM

    1. Don’t be a decking shill
    2. You’re girl looks like a pig.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 5:39 AM

    poor people . condolences to their families and all the people of France .

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    Nov 14th 2015, 5:47 AM

    Merkel? Why would you bring this $hit on Europe? Coming from a country like Germany, you would think you know the meaning of conflict? We human beings are a tribal people. We disagree between our football teams, our favourite clothes our language, our nationality and probably worst of all, our religion, or lack thereof. Inviting millions of foreign religiously bigoted neople into the lands our ancestors fought so hard to make into the world it is today will discard our heritage forever. Why would you do this?

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    Nov 14th 2015, 6:20 AM

    I’ll tell you why! To fu*k us all so you Germans can feel good about yourselves. We all know you still feel guilty about the second world war so rather than doing what’s necessary and funding camps in Turkey, out of some ridiculous sense of guilt your fools of a chancellor thinks she has to look after every less fortunate person from the third world . Whatever about Syria. I don’t want to hear about it. This is more of an Arab/Persian/’Sunni/Shia problem. There big enough to sort it out. We’ll be swamped within 5 years and there will be chaos on our streets iif Merkel keeps this up.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 10:20 AM

    Sertorious, the mad lad is a lad who is always mad.

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    Nov 15th 2015, 12:43 AM

    Follow the advice of people like Sertorius if you want peace for your children and the world

    Follow multicultural Fiona if you want more bloodbath

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    Nov 15th 2015, 1:57 AM

    Fiona needs go live in Saudi.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 6:14 AM

    These people aren’t terrorists they are cowards who pick on the weak and innocent

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    Nov 14th 2015, 8:19 AM

    This is part of what terrorists do.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 8:55 AM

    Yeah I’m pretty sure that’s the definition of a terrorist. A person who deliberately targets innocent civilians in order to incite fear.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 9:01 AM

    What part of the word terror do you not understand? Idiot.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 9:27 AM

    are you advocating terrorists, aren’t you?

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    Nov 14th 2015, 9:42 AM

    The fact so many green thumbed Derek’s observation has me worried.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 10:18 AM
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    Nov 14th 2015, 6:58 PM

    a terrorist is anyone who uses violence to get what they want

    that includes torture and air strikes

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    Nov 14th 2015, 8:32 PM

    @bobby deniro could you include Muhammad the false prophet in that? After all he was a mass murderer too.. as well as a slaver, war monger and he had a fondness for children, what do you think?

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    Nov 14th 2015, 8:14 AM

    Islam requires the rejection of the globe.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 8:58 AM

    Reject the extremist not the religion.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 9:08 AM

    The extremists have as valid an interpretation of Islam as anyone unfortunately. If this was done in the name of any other religion the outcry from adherents would be deafening. But there is widespread support for attacks like these is the Muslim world.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 10:19 AM

    @ lolo nope. Just reject the religion outright. Women are 2nd class citizens, any freedom of sexuality is prohibited etc etc. So just ban its teachings on the continent. Any religion that teaches and preaches hatred, not just islam. BAN IT. It is 2015, not 460Ad. Saudi Arabia have beheaded more people than isi last year and they are topnof the table of the u.n. human rights comission??? Wtf

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    Nov 14th 2015, 11:25 AM

    Ban religion. It is an irony that those who most oppose authoritarian aspects some Islam seek to emulate its intolerance and is proscription of other religions.

    We have to avoid increasing polarisation. That will just lead to more widespread hate and intolerance.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 11:50 AM

    Women are also second class citizens in Catholicism! I’m not religious at all but I don’t believe in tarring everyone with the same brush either. And not every person of Islamic faith is as you describe. Every religion has been responsible for abhorrent crimes.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 12:06 PM

    Only one commits massacres such as this in Europe. Screaming whatabout this or that to make yourself feel better won’t change that fact.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 12:18 PM

    “Women are 2nd class citizens, any freedom of sexuality is prohibited etc etc…..”

    Really Kenobi??

    Remind me to raise that topic with the next lesbian pope. ;-)

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    Nov 14th 2015, 2:43 PM

    And what about Eastern Europe, most of them share the same values as Muslims, they also openly profess their hate for us. Do we ban Catholics as well?

    Banning religions is not the answer.
    Cut off the funding, encourage the moderates.

    Encourage as PM Modi said, the moderate forms of Islam such as Sufiism and Shia. Stop the Saudi Wahabi extremists from spreading their intolerance and hatred.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 2:51 PM

    John, Where or when exactly did Eastern Europeans profess their hatred of us?

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    Nov 14th 2015, 3:16 PM

    How do you know that?

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    Nov 14th 2015, 6:09 PM

    @Lolo. When a vicious expansionary ideology masquerades as a religion to get its foot in the door then then we must do the necessary and eject it.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 5:21 AM

    My thoughts and prayers are with the people of France, caught up in this atrocity.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 8:57 AM

    Liberal politically correct fools will be the death of Europe, importing problems from the Middle East, and these same idiots are seeking to plant millions of Muslims into Europe under the false guise of being Refugees. People from their own religion, and own country barely get on, never-mind people from a completely alien ideology.

    Mass population plantations of people from different religions will always lead to social discord, disharmony, and ultimately conflict, all one has to do is look at the past to see what will happen in the future. How has massive population plantations worked out in Israel, Ukraine, Pakistan, etc, etc?? R.I.P Paris Victims

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    Nov 14th 2015, 6:21 AM

    This is truly shocking. A knock on effect will be that if even one attacker was a refugee, we shall see a European backlash and borders being closed to all refugees. Which is so sad for those who are trying to escape terror and war torn countries. I dare say this is only gonna get worse. Paronia and worse. The poor families in Paris and France. Words can’t express my sorrow for them.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 2:05 PM

    At the end of the day, Europe, and particularly Ireland, has no obligation to take refugees. How come our parents didn’t grow up believing they were deeply racist for not importing millions of 3rd world daoine bochta? Take one look at a photo of an Ethiopian child in the 80s compared to the economic migrants of today, and tell me who needed more compassion. The media activists and politicians decided to lay the guilt trip on the gullible mind-controlled sheeple, who are facebook necknominating each other to out-charity each other for social validation (bragbook ‘likes’), and you devoured it like a fat bird comfort/shame- eating a gallon of Ben and Jerries. If borders close, it’s called tough f/ckin toothpaste. When the Islamic ideology ensures Europeans are race-replaced (which the’re already bragging about in the 1.2bn Muslim community) they won’t be saying ‘so sad’. Your Euro charitable mindset, borne of the Socratic method, Christianity, Magna Carta, etc is alien to them. Even if the borders do close, Europeans will look after them financially.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 8:55 AM

    This is the Europe of the future thanks to Merkel. It was her who flung open Europe’s borders to unchecked migration.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 9:33 AM

    Correct. In any 100000 muslim refugees coming into Eorope, if only 1% of them are radicalised, then that’s 1000 more jihadis on the continent.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 10:18 AM

    Germany only wants the 99,000 for labour reasons.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 10:24 AM

    A study by Norwegian security forces showed 10% had extremist links. So upgrade that to 10,000 out of 100,000

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    Nov 14th 2015, 11:30 AM

    But the primary atrocity was committed by Anders Breivik, a Norwegian who hated young Labour Party supporters even more than he hated Muslims. Breivik will be gleeful over these atrocities, knowing that it is the excuse that many of his ilk want so as to justify counter atrocities.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 7:58 PM

    and it only takes 8 of them to cause carnage.

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    Nov 15th 2015, 2:06 AM

    Eamonn: let’s not pretend we do not have our own PM. Merkel was completely out of order, but ENDA KENNY our Taoiseach FULLY SUPPORTED her position and got FRANCES FITZGERALD to increase immigrant numbers from Islamic countries.

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    Nov 15th 2015, 2:10 AM

    Fiona: All of the various attacks this year from islamic-fundamentalists would suggest that Ander Breivik was correct in his view that there is a problem with islamification in Norway and the EU.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 5:43 AM

    Animals are all those that committed this are. RIP to all the victims.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 8:40 AM

    Hi Gary, animal’s don’t do this, its the mind that has the ability to indict blood guilt on western public, for deaths in Syria and the like,

    The same kind of thinking that persons use to attack and stab Jews in Israel, behead a soldier in London, my deepest sympathies to the people of Paris, shalom.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 8:59 AM

    Ah, the hasbara z ionists are up and out of bed.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 7:38 PM

    why weren’t the air strikes shown on TV?

    they show us the reprisal

    but they won’t show us the start

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    Nov 15th 2015, 8:01 AM

    Not sure quite how you missed it, but airstrikes have been all over the tv. Perhaps if you watched less E4 and more news channels you would have noticed…

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    Nov 14th 2015, 8:11 AM

    Ban Islam, Deport every non national if they practice Islam, unless they explicitly renounce their faith in a sworn ceremony and only if the intelligence service says is ok. Change the constitutions to be able to strip nationality to all naturalised Muslims, even if it means they become stateless. There are stateless people in this world, send them to their country of origin, by force if necessary, threaten the country of origin if they refuse them entry, and declare Islam a cult.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 8:43 AM

    It’s like reading an Oliver Cromwell speech rehashed for the twenty first century.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 9:47 AM

    If you are going to preach hate please use your real name and photo so the world knows what a xenophobic, sectarian racist looks like

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    Nov 14th 2015, 2:14 PM

    Ok, religion o’ peace-a-philes, why not bring your bleeding heart sensibilities to Saudi Arabia, and start telling them to show their faces (from underneath their Burkas) and what (insert minority du jour)-phobics, and gender/race/able/sex-ists they are? You can bask in the affection and respect they’ll show you.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 6:48 AM

    Brainwashed from a very young age , saying there prayers before they can ready or write . Just like kids in Ireland, except there more hardcore in Islam , nothing gets questioned, once you seriously question any religion you’d have to be a complete and utter moron to belive it .

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    Nov 14th 2015, 9:49 AM

    That plonker, Frau Doktor Merkel needs to have her head examined. This influx of muslim refugees into Europe is madness. In Berlin, the’ve turned the old Tempelhof airport complex, which has been used as a Peoples’ Park, into housing for the thousands of refugees expected to come into the city.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 1:26 PM

    Her head… examined?

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    Nov 15th 2015, 1:30 AM

    How about sent into exile for being a traitor.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 8:37 AM

    It’s time to fight fire with fire

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    Nov 14th 2015, 9:18 AM

    France closing the borders. Bit late now.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 9:40 AM

    So Stephen, I presume your outrage is such that you’re off down to the recruiting office of any one of the assorted armies that are currently involved in bombing the sh|t out of the M.E.?
    Surely you’re not just another keyboard action man happy to leave strong military action to other lesser mortals?
    Of course not, you’re going to ‘fight fire with fire’.
    I feel safer already.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 8:36 AM

    They should wipe the Islamic race of the face of the earth. Gather all them horrible bas***ds in one area and drop a nuclear bomb.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 9:48 AM

    Ah mass genocide is the answer, you like the Hitler approach

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    Nov 14th 2015, 9:58 AM

    Well, what else would you do, Peter? They’re too dangerous to be left alive.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 10:44 AM

    Islam is not a race @David Byrne but some soft headed open border commentators believe it is.
    The ideology of Islam is the problem.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 10:45 AM

    Geez lads if stupidity was worth anything, you’d be millionaires. Kill them all: genius.
    I’m glad you guys are far too ignorant to ever gain any real power or influence. You guys are no better with your sentiment than the terrorist who killed scores last night.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 4:28 PM

    And who is going to nuke them? Spell it out? and exactly who? them all? If you mean all 1 Billion of them they your off your head. The only people actually fighting IS on the ground are Muslims like the Kurds or the Shias. The simple facts are innocent people in Paris, London, Damascus, Moscow, Baghdad, Kabul pay a dreadful price for the sickness of our so called leaders. Just listen to Kerry talking today he is so far out of touch with reality it is scary. The answer is to embrace the Kurds, Shias, put French, Russian, American troops in there and defeat them that is the only way. Calling for mass genocide is just the bark of a madman.

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    Nov 16th 2015, 3:16 AM

    Ah air strikes is the answer, france like the american approach

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    Nov 14th 2015, 9:51 AM

    How europe /world is going to fight these islamic nutters i dont know . Just goes to show how useless the EU is when they cant even agree and sort out how they can stop the mass immigration of migrants from the middle east . These event could be a game changer and may be the start of europe falling apart . Each country has a duty to protect its citizens and have border controls which is against what the EU is all about . Why did the journal.ie not report on Sweden closing it s borders on thursday ?

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    Nov 15th 2015, 1:33 AM

    Eu cant even get their accountants to sign off their books for last 20 years dont mind foreign policy. Will be sorted at National Level. Brexit looks more likely now. Poland-Hungary have lead the way to fight insanity of Fr. MERKEL.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 9:19 AM

    Chicken Sh!t b@stards ! 7 of the 8 blew themselves up. They’re a sick and twisted race.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 10:17 AM

    To call them a race is to humanise them… these people are not human, they are not even animals, they are parasites….They behave in exactly the same was as a parasite does.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 10:39 AM

    As a European citizen, I call for the arrest and impeachment of Angela Merkel for illegally allowing hundreds of thousands of migrants to flow into Europe from the Middle East. How many of these people have terrorist intentions? It might be 0%, it might be 5%. We actually have no way of knowing but will soon find out.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 11:19 PM

    We just did, one of the bombers entered Europe through Greece in October with a boat filled with “refugees”.

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    Nov 15th 2015, 12:48 AM

    Add Sarkozy, Sutherland, Soros, practically all of the EU comissioners, Kenny any multicultural and open-borders supporter, but let’s start with the politicians.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 12:07 PM

    Time for Europe to take the gloves off, if these people want to live in our countries, they abide by our rules, and if they don’t like it, well then back to wherever they came from. These people (yes Muslims) are so culturally and radically different from us it’s actually scary, yet they move into countries like the UK & France, set up their own ghettos, denounce and plot against the country that they are living in, and secretly hope and pray that one day they will rule or more to the point sharia law will be the law of the country. This is not being sensational, the majority of muslims despise our western ways, our values etc, yet they choose to live in our countries, knowing full well that the likes of the UK, France, Germany etc will feed them, house them, look after them, and allow them to live as they choose, with the radicals amongst them spreading their poison. It’s a joke,a and the likes of Angela Merkal should hang her head in shame today, as she would have the whole of Syria living for free in Europe if she had her way.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 8:59 AM

    Coming to a city near you soon…

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    Nov 14th 2015, 10:22 AM

    Silly scaremongering which plays into the agenda of the terrorists.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 3:24 PM

    Is Clonskeagh a city now?

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    Nov 15th 2015, 12:01 AM

    agenda of the terrorists? islam directs to conquer the world for islam, who are these people like Fiona who make excuses for islam but attack christianity any chance they get, what is their agenda?

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    Nov 16th 2015, 3:39 AM

    Coming to a country (with undeveloped oil fields) near you soon…

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    Nov 14th 2015, 8:43 AM

    We better Recall the Seanad and get them to debate this. We now have a resident Labour expert on terror there now too so they should have it sorted in no time.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 10:16 AM

    who wants to be judged on who she will be, but not her past.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 11:27 AM
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    Nov 14th 2015, 9:27 AM

    Shocking barbarity. If anyone wants to feel the terror of the Bataclan atack, go over to the Guardian and click the video link half way down.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 11:51 AM

    Still support the influx of economic migrants from Islamic nations everyone? I don’t. The EU has created, not potentially created, a serious situation for the future of this continent. A superstate that came so far with policy and human rights, now on the brink of this kind of hysteria. An outrageous attack RIP

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    Nov 14th 2015, 12:44 PM

    It’s on mornings like these when my mind is transported back to the playgrounds of schools I went to in England fifty years or so ago. There were Jews, Muslims, Catholics, Protestant and Hindus. I had friends who were Muslims and Jews. We all had fights as kids do. However when it came to the punch was when I first heard the word Jihad. We were told by a gaggle of Muslims that one day they will burn the world and kill everyone who doesn’t believe in their book and God whilst making the sign of a finger dragged across the throat. We all thought is was just craic. The reactions from the others were in a way a microcosm of the world, especially from the children of the chosen race. Yep, mornings like these I find myself in despair. I fear the worst is yet to come and this is just like the kids being let out to play and forming groups in the playground. It’s my kids I worry for now.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 2:25 PM

    When a murderous demon whispered in Mohamhead the Paeodphile’s ears all those years ago, it could have never have imagined the outcome.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 4:43 PM

    Being reported now that one of the dead attackers passed through Greece on October 3rd as a Syrian refugee.
    Come on TheJournal…. these are the people you’ve spent months trying to sell us propaganda about. What have you got to say about that? Silence, I’d expect.
    Luckily some of us aren’t fools.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 6:26 PM

    Well said Jon.. +1

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    Nov 14th 2015, 10:17 PM

    Or maybe it was s terrorist that travelled under the guise of a refugee, maybe like a terrorist travelling to England during the 70′s and 80′s under the guise of a neighbour looking for work.

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    Nov 15th 2015, 1:45 AM

    100%. They’re not calling us racist anymore now are they. This was all predicted 6 months ago. RT carried a news item where ISIS proclaimed they would sent silent army to Europe.

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    Nov 15th 2015, 1:47 AM

    Interview today with an academic from Damascus University on RT. He said 20% of the refugees who slipped into EU are jihadi’s.

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    Nov 15th 2015, 8:15 AM

    Yes but, so far the majority of eyewitnesses have said that they attackers were French and spoke French with no accent. Even the one who has been named, is French. As much as you might want to, you can’t blame the refugees for this.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 1:20 PM

    Here in Poland, many are actually celebrating and saying France deserves this for allowing multi-culturalism as they put it.
    Only a few days ago 70,000 Polish and Hungarian neo-nazis marched through Warsaw expressing their hatred for the EU, the West, Islam and all foreigners in general.

    It really is time we took stock to adjust our policies on immigration and overseas funding.
    - restrict immigration for all countries which hate us and our values.
    - stop accommodating minorities and force them to integrate.
    - suspend and remove Eastern European countries who clearly do not want to be in the EU except for the funding.
    - our values and our laws should take precedence and people who don’t like it can leave, be they Arabs, Africans, Eastern European, Asian or whatever.
    - stop trading with countries like Saudi Arabia, the main source of funding to ISIS according to the UN.

    Fed up with the liberal agenda which allows people to take advantage of our generosity and the freedoms we have fought for.

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    Nov 15th 2015, 5:14 AM

    @JohnSheehy, what are you doing in Warsaw? Marching, by the sound of it.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 10:51 AM

    This is a war the west cannot win. A seed is planted in low IQ, easily led youths and you have the most dangerous weapon in this world. You have to feel that if this group was in any way more intelligent that a lot more than 128 lives could have been taken. It was coerced, but amateurish at the same time. These kind of attacks are here to stay. The carnage we saw last night was created by 6 youths that have been turned. They are not militants. Future terrorist attacks will be much better coordinated. Isis are just getting started here.

    Those blaming refugees/ migrants need to be educated.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 11:12 AM

    @Gavin Scott: nobody is blaming refugees or migrants. The point is a lot of migrants have walked freely into Europe from a war torn region where ISIS have a strong presence, therefore we do not know how many terrorists (if any) have entered undetected.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 12:37 PM

    “A Syrian passport was found on the body of one of the bombers at the stadium, police say.”
    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34820016

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    Nov 14th 2015, 2:19 PM

    Well hang on a second, the only logical reason yet another passport is being found on a terrorist is that they were hoping to cross a border as they flee. Otherwise it seems suspiciously like a prop in a story. I suppose truth is sometimes stranger than fiction.

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    Nov 16th 2015, 3:21 AM

    remember 9/11

    they couldn’t find the black boxes but they found paper passports

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    Nov 14th 2015, 10:23 AM

    This is going to define “great nations”. It is time the Syrian Rebels, Assad, Iran, Russia, NATO and Isreal sit down put their differences aside and wipe ISIS of the map. Every nation in Europe including Ireland should commit forces to build a 3 million strong army and destroy Islamists all over the world.

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    Nov 15th 2015, 12:45 AM

    naive…

    Many of the Syrian rebels had ISIS and al queda, interchangeable. West supplied and trained Syrian rebels and a lot of ISIS etc they attacked Assad because he is a nationalist and Israels wants him gone

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    Nov 14th 2015, 11:58 AM

    Lets just close our borders to these people.yes the terrorists who carried out these murders are probably home grown but that is the point.the majority of europeans dislike the death penalty because there is an outside chance an innocent might be killed.use the same thought process here.if there is a chance that one in thousands might turn out to be a terrorist stop them all..

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    Nov 14th 2015, 9:33 AM

    How…

    Many…

    Times???

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    Nov 14th 2015, 9:36 AM

    It’s important to remember that terrorists do not represent the majority of the peoples they claim to. Terrorists are prepared to kill, injure and destroy for ideas of who they are and who other people are. They only represent themselves ultimately and are motivated out of their own psychology and emotional programming. We should not fall into the trap of blaming people who bear the same nationality, religion, etc. for the truly horrifying acts they carry out.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 9:50 AM

    Well said

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    Nov 14th 2015, 9:52 AM

    @ David A. Murray. Why then, as Vladimir Vasectomy has pointed out, do none of this muslim majority ever denounce the jidhadis?

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    Nov 14th 2015, 10:20 AM

    David A Murray . Some of what you say it true but look into the quoran and you will see violence against non muslims . So all muslims live by this book ?

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    Nov 14th 2015, 11:48 PM

    The muslim majority? The majority of people are busy living their lives. How many times have you taken to the streets this year waving a poster that makes publicly emphatic your belief in core human values? I’ve not done that once this year. I assume people assume good faith until I behave otherwise.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 4:48 PM

    Sky news reports One bomber was syria refugee passed through greece this year.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 9:59 AM

    A father escaped and his teenage daughter was still trapped inside? WTF?! I don’t know the circumstances of the situation, but if one of my kids were in there (obviously standing away from embarrassing dad) I can certainly say which direction I wouldn’t be running! RIP to those who tragically lost their lives at the hands of some idiots who thought themselves heroes. Simple-minded beasts whoever did this.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 11:56 AM

    This is WW3, and it’s time for a preemptive nuclear strike in Syria.
    Innocent people will die – but they’re dead anyway under Islam.
    WW1 – tyranny defeated. WW2 – fascism defeated. WW3 – Religion defeated.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 1:12 PM

    Imagine packing up all of your belongings, your whole life, and getting onto a scabby little dinghy or container in the middle of the night and risking your life to leave your home which has been taken over by violent extremists and their twisted interpretation of your religion.
    Imagine surviving the journey, making it across several different borders, arriving in Europe/France and finally making it to safety.
    Now imagine that evil you’ve just run from catching up with you in your new homeland after you’ve just begun to rebuild your life and you’re the one that gets blamed.
    Hundreds of years of bloody history in a destabilised region and the extremism born out of it has caused this atrocity, not migrants.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 2:42 PM

    Mark Thompson, you don’t cross 5,6,7 EU countries to reach safety. The vast majority of these ‘refugees’ refused to register in certain EU countries. They are overwhelmingly economic migrants. Also, a lot of these countries are destabilised and extremism exists there because of the populations of people living there. Also these atrocities have more than likely been caused by immigrants – 1st or 2nd generation – who actually hate their ‘new homeland’ and all of the native people in it.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 3:01 PM

    You both make points. All refugees and migrants can’t be tarred with the same terrorist brush but at the same time these attacks are done by muslims and until muslim countries are visibly seen working to capture and expose extremists a lot of people will be suspicious of all muslims. The West has a lot to answer for too with years of bombing and meddling in the middle east.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 11:52 PM

    imagine, imagine, true enough, your imagination doesn’t reflect reality. 99% of those coming are fit young healthy males, who have already started raping European women….how’s that for your imagination come true?

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    Nov 15th 2015, 3:05 AM

    I can’t even respond to that so blown away am I by the sheer ignorance of that comment. I feel sorry for any genuine refugee who flees IS to meet you. Truly, from the frying pan to the fire.

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    Nov 16th 2015, 3:31 AM

    makes me laugh when world leaders talks about deterrents

    the only deterrent is fu-k off and leave other countries alone

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    Nov 14th 2015, 10:35 AM

    The kinds of comments getting thumbs up here worries me…..

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    Nov 14th 2015, 6:29 PM

    Time to close all European borders. Times have changed dramatically since they were opened to all. Totally different world.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 10:14 PM

    So where would you draw your European border?

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    Nov 15th 2015, 12:50 AM

    Somehow they seemed to know in the early 90′s, somehow we all needed passports etc. I wonder is Ireland part of China or in Africa, maybe you can tell us?

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    Nov 14th 2015, 1:01 PM

    EVERYBODY is absolutely sure that this was Muslims.

    Why? Because one of their terrorists dropped his Syrian passport.

    Yeah, because suicide attackers always bring (and lose) their ID’s.

    We are being taken for a ride. Yet again. And we can’t get enough of it.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 6:23 PM

    Palestinian Islamist groups have condemned the killing of innocents???

    Do they think we are stupid? They are currently stabbing their way across Israel as we speak;

    but they are very clever in how they deal with the media and have slyly condemned these attacks to try and show that they are not the same as ISIS, when in fact they are just a different side of the same coin. They want to make sure they hold onto their crucial liberal European support.

    Don’t let them fool you, proof of their hypocrisy is when they danced in the streets for 9/11 with Hamas themselves handing out sweets to children, so what has changed since then exactly?

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    Nov 16th 2015, 2:16 AM

    Meanwhile, deep behind the scenes, Israel has entered the ancient Ashkenazi-Sunni alliance (with Saudi and Quatar) to wipe out the Shia. Israel is funding IS. And they’ve actively promoted the Sunni Muslim flood into Europe. Mossad agents also danced during 9/11, celebrating a job well-done.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 3:22 PM
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    Nov 14th 2015, 11:38 AM

    how well scripted is this whole thing.. obama has a speech ready for the whole thing, the exact same line and talking points are being put out by the large media narrative, there is social media hashtags ready to go ……………………wait and see this will be used to role out huge sweeping police state powers and the need for government’s to be able to spy on peoples privacy. problem, reaction solution. politicians will defend this by saying they need this power to keep people safe from all the migrants and so called radicals they have flooded their countries with. there is an agenda behind this.
    http://www.legitgov.org/CIA-Director-Brennan-Met-French-Security-Chief-Paris-Attacks-Report
    this an interesting article with good links, it give the reader something to think about and a deeper perspective on things.
    in any event its a tragedy no matter who was behind it………….

    does anyone remember this http://www.businessinsider.com/afp-netanyahu-warns-of-grave-mistake-if-france-recognises-palestine-2014-11

    right now the public is being led by their emotions and blindly following the narrative and reacting, these people need to calm down think a little before saying or doing anything foolish.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 11:45 AM

    @john fergus 1 unused tin foil hat winging its way to you wear it with pride. Don’t forget to turn the heating on in that faraday cage cold must getting to you.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 11:58 AM

    wow i am getting dissed by an anonymous person with a blank twitter account. no followers and just following the journal to post bs comments.
    back under your bridge troll.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 12:21 PM

    *do a little thinking.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 2:54 PM

    Jim Corr is that you?

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    Nov 14th 2015, 7:15 PM

    9/11 was an act of war aka excuse to go into other countries

    last night was an act of war aka excuse to.. do god knows what (with america’s support)

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    Nov 14th 2015, 10:33 AM

    Madness and awful what happened but what evidence is there as of now that Islamic people did this?? Talk about jumping the gun. Surely if a Jewish group was being blamed, folk would be accused of bigotry and racism, as for Muslims it’s carte blanche; the anti Muslim bigotry on this Thread is through the roof.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 12:04 PM

    Being anti-muslim is not bigotry.
    List out a few recent mass atrocities that were not islam related.
    Disrespect for religion is well established by reasonable people.
    Fear of muslims and the spread of their viral religion has sound basis.
    Islamic moderates support their crazy boof the quran, the quran supports the extremists.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 1:13 PM

    Jumping the gun is a rather unfortunate term to use I think. What these idiots were chanting whilst gunning down innocent people is a slight clue to their religious orientation as well as IS itself warning more will follow if they are hit again in Syria. Is that enough for now?

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    Nov 14th 2015, 1:18 PM

    “Being anti-muslim is not bigotry.” That’s the best I’ve heard yet.

    I’ll list out a few recent atrocities that Muslims were framed for:
    WTC 93, 9/11, Bali, Madrid, London, Mumbai, Charlie Hebdo, I could go on.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 4:12 PM

    How many layers of tin foil have you got for your hat John?

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    Nov 16th 2015, 3:34 AM

    i was watching TV last night

    tense, disturbing, you never know what could happen next

    but that’s enough about Imelda interviewing Sinead

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    Nov 14th 2015, 6:28 PM

    oh my god. One of the terrorists was found with a Syrian passport on him, which had been registered in GREECE.

    That means he likely came in as a “refugee”.

    There are no words to describe the stupidity and weakness of western leaders.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 7:01 PM

    Why would he be carrying a passport? Remember 9/11 when 2 planes exploded into a building causing a fire which burned so hot it melted the steel frames causing 2 sky scrapers to collapse with rubble and dust spread for blocks. They found two passports belonging to the high jackers on the ground intact that day too

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    Nov 16th 2015, 1:57 AM

    Why the red thumbs? That is the official story.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 6:08 PM

    ITN journalist Martin Geissler reported that a Syrian passport was found beside the remains one of the perpetrators of the Bataclan massacre – that perpetrator had entered Europe via the Greek island of Leros.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 8:24 PM

    I wonder how many 10 year old girls are being told how proud they should feel that their 45 year old uncle has chosen her to be his 4th wife. Islam is dirt. Banish it and ban the sales of the koran

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    Nov 14th 2015, 10:09 PM

    And Catholicism has a great reputation with young children!!

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    Nov 14th 2015, 11:59 PM

    Actually it has, you are referring to evil satanic people inside a church which condemns pedophiles, a very small minority were involved, it is against christianity. In islam pedophilia is allowed.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 11:46 PM

    This is horrible what happened in Paris. I love this city and I know most of these places. One of these terrorists had a Syrian passport – he was registered on Greek island as a refugee. Few months ago I wrote a comment we couldn`t trust all people without any document – I was called as a intolerance ignorant and racist. NO: We have a right to protect ourselves and our families. There are a lot of terrorists between real refugees – with Syrian passports bought for 750 euro each.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 11:54 PM

    It is clear we must redouble our efforts to open our borders more, only by making sure that white people have no place to hide or call home, can peace finally come to the world, it is clear these attacks are a result of white people hurting other peoples feelings

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    Nov 14th 2015, 7:27 PM

    must be the worst thing u can hear as a child. YOU ARE A MUSLIM. A cult that sees Saville and Glitter as normal

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    Nov 14th 2015, 9:27 PM

    Well it has been reported that one of the killers was a refugee. This is outrageous and very concerning that we are letting these individuals in to Europe. It is high time we face reality and send everyone of them back. Remove the ships from the Med that are bring them to our shores, this is crazy. They don’t want help or work, they only want to push their ideas and religion and culture on us.
    Let them head east to their neighbours who practice this vile and unwanted religion. Every border in Europe must be put back in place to protect the citizens not of Europe but the citizens of their respective countries. Enough is enough now, and it is high time our values and ways are respect those coming from the east wishing to live in the west. Adopt our ways or leave and those with the smallest idea of performing or engaging in any type of extremism should be deported immediately without trial or questions to be asked.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 10:12 PM

    So condemn potentially millions to death on the off chance that you will stop the handful of extremists that would carry out something like this.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 2:53 PM

    Just heard a car has speed through barriers on a toll, and it is heading towords Paris, heavely armed men inside the car.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 3:09 PM

    Has that gobs#te Merkel shown her tea bag face,made a statement? more blood on her hands.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 3:12 PM

    @Orla. On what media?

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    Nov 14th 2015, 3:28 PM

    The Daily Mail, it does not seem to be on any other media.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 1:31 PM

    Indeed Two Irish people living in Dingle who were in the vicinity the of the Paris attacks; are reported to be currently safe .. hopefully the Irish person who was injured will be okay …
    I dedicate these two photos from the Dingle Peninsula to all French people who have visited Dingle Ireland in the past .. Indeed I lived in Paris for a month back in 1983 – a beautiful place..
    Nous sommes solidaires avec vous. Nous sommes tous ensemble. We are with you. United.
    https://www.facebook.com/TheDinglePeninsula/posts/1155016947860169

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    Nov 14th 2015, 2:12 PM

    @Dingle Holiday. Is this genuine or is it just to advertise your business?

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    Nov 14th 2015, 3:14 PM

    That’s to advertise his business. Lovely, using the massacre of others for a plug. Jesus Christ.

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    Mute Dingle Holiday
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    Nov 14th 2015, 11:29 PM

    Hmm what anon moron ..
    that I went to Paris on a cultural exchange ?
    or Dingle has close connections to French people via tourism ..
    empathy my friend .. you need some ..

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    Nov 14th 2015, 11:32 PM

    Alesis and you are a **** :)) real classy

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    Nov 15th 2015, 2:10 AM

    Don’t bother sending that request you looney. Hmmmnnmmnmnmmnmnmnmn.
    I think hmmmmnnmmmnmn you’ve been hmmmmmnnmnmnm using the boards cregularly hmmmmmmn to hmmmmmmn plug hmmmmmmmn your shit photos of waves on a beach in Kerry. They are as washed out as you are.

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    Nov 15th 2015, 2:58 AM

    hmmmmmnnnmmnnmnnmnmm

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    Nov 15th 2015, 3:01 AM

    Pay for an advert like everyone else.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 8:58 AM

    The Eiffel Tower’s lights are switched off at 1am every night.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 3:21 PM

    I see ye gave yourself one there.

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    Mute Jonathan Ryan
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    Nov 14th 2015, 7:26 PM

    The hatred, ignorance and stupidity in most of the comments on this article is appalling, you disgust me and you should be ashamed of yourselves

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    Nov 14th 2015, 9:41 PM

    Everybody seems offended at the notion that this may not be Muslims. Why I wonder?

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    Nov 14th 2015, 11:48 PM

    Yet everyone is still alive from all the ‘supposed’ hatred you speak of, whereas those who have had a tangle with the ‘love’ of islam…….

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    Nov 14th 2015, 6:28 PM

    It would be great to see the West and Islam truly united against the common enemy, IS.

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    Mute Whitey Gen O'Syde
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    Nov 14th 2015, 11:48 PM

    Islam is a cult of conquest, it has done so since it’s inception in Saudi Arabia, tricking the anyone who came into contact with it subduing them by the sword. Anyone propagandising for islam is trying to take advantage of western naivety while putting peoples lives at risk. You should be ashamed of yourself.

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    Nov 15th 2015, 2:29 AM

    Just a few things
    What these people want is for our reaction to these obscene events to drive moderate muslims into the arms if IS
    Religions evolve, were the crusades nice like Hari Krishna
    We need to try to understand why these people are open to being blown up themselves/ killing other people. What has made them so alienated from liberal society that they can even countenance these acts ?
    Once we understand this disconnection, how do we address it ?
    By the way just to offset accusations of wishy washy liberalism I fully believe that once you get to the stage of killing innocent people you are beyond redemption and all bets are off but how can we stop these people getting that far ?
    Finally, to nail my collous to the mast, Je suis avec vous, Paris (Leaving cert French from 33 years ago

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    Nov 15th 2015, 9:36 AM

    I was called a Racist, when I and others suggested. That these guys will use the Refugee crises they created, to infiltrate and create chaos!

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    Nov 14th 2015, 8:59 PM

    Armed police assembled at hotel in Paris!! No further news yet!!!

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    Nov 14th 2015, 9:07 PM

    Pullman hotel, ongoing ‘intervention’!

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    Nov 14th 2015, 11:19 PM

    If this is the world in which we live in, then I don’t want to live in it.. I want to live in a world where there’s peace, no wars, where everyone from all walks of life live together without being afraid of being attacked, I don’t want to live in a world where these senseless tragedies happen on a regular basis, and in fear of when the next attack will be. This “war on terror” made things a lot worse, Tony Blair admitted that himself, the only affect this “war” is having, is on the innocents who just want to live their life in peace.

    As John Lennon said, Imagine all the people, Living life in peace…

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    Nov 14th 2015, 11:56 PM

    john lennon didn’t have to deal with reality, that’s why he kept imagining……meanwhile in the real world, ordinary people deal and die with the consequences of the Lennon imaginings. I don’t want a world where we have to suffer because of their imaginings, secure borders would have brought far more peace

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    Nov 15th 2015, 10:16 AM

    Michael O’Connor: “People falling all over the place, people screaming and just clawing and running and pushing to get away.”

    Michael O’Connor, from South Shields, was at the concert hall when the gunmen attacked.
    The 30-year-old lay on top of his girlfriend to protect her as other audience members were shot and killed. Both escaped unharmed after playing dead.

    “What they want to do is to terrify us,” he told BBC Radio 5 live’s Stephen Nolan show.
    “We can’t let them win and these people just, they’re just monsters, they’re just, they don’t represent anything, they’re not Muslims, they’re not, they’re just animals.

    “How can you walk in there, I mean, I’m 30 years old, I was probably the oldest, one of the oldest people in the gig. It was full of teenagers and, you know, people in their early 20s going to see a band.”

    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-34824903

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    Nov 15th 2015, 12:33 AM

    If you need to be told why this happened then you are re-tarded

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    Nov 15th 2015, 9:10 AM

    Tony Abbott to Andrew Bolt: immigrants should ‘join our team’

    Islamic State must be defeated because it cannot be contained, former prime minister Tony Abbott said today.

    Speaking on The Bolt Report on the Ten Network, Mr Abbott warned that Islamic State was growing stronger. he also said that that only people who were prepared to “join our team” should be allowed to settle in Australia.

    http://m.theaustralian.com.au/news/tony-abbott-to-andrew-bolt-immigrants-should-join-our-team/story-e6frg6n6-1227609675208

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    Nov 15th 2015, 9:13 AM

    You can watch the ‘Bolt Report’ below:

    http://tenplay.com.au/channel-ten/the-bolt-report

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    Nov 15th 2015, 2:12 AM

    The fact that everyone automatically assumes that this has been done by refugees shows that the brainwashing of the majority by the media is working all too well. There’s every chance that these guys could be French nationals , just as the London bombers were British nationals. Closing borders will not stop these acts. The 9/11 bombers were not refugees.by stopping refugees finding a safe haven all we do is increase the suffering of hundreds of thousands of innocent people. People who are trying to escape the same terror in their homelands. The west, or at least those involved in the wars in the Middle East, has a duty to look after the refugees that they created through decades of foreign policy that creates the likes of Al Quida and ISIS.
    Instead of of blaming an entire religion or race for the acts of a few and take the easy way out , its time to look closer to home and address the role of the west in the rise of terror.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 10:19 PM

    martha

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    Nov 14th 2015, 10:59 PM

    This is horrible.

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    Nov 14th 2015, 10:22 PM

    Tonight is about Paris, you would think RTE shoul reflect that and sxare monger and try to find flaws with our local government, that is for another day

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