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State of the Nation
Insanity: TDs will spend today doing the same thing over again and expecting a different result
Here’s everything you need to know about what’s happening in Irish politics right now…
12.00pm, 6 Apr 2016
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Everybody’s talking about
On the 10 March, the Dáil tried and – as everyone expected – failed to elect a Taoiseach with the leaders of the two largest parties failing to secure sufficient support from TDs. Enda Kenny resigned as Taoiseach, assumed a caretaker role, and Fine Gael and Fianna Fáil set about securing the support of independents.
Almost one month on, the Dáil sits later today and will try again to elect a Taoiseach. Everybody once again expects that no one will be successful. In fact it’s likely that, despite the courting, none of the independents will vote for Enda Kenny or Micheál Martin.
Neither of these two will become Taoiseach today. Sasko Lazarov
Sasko Lazarov
In effect, TDs are doing the same thing over again and, while no one really expects a different result, it does bring to mind the famous Albert Einstein quote that the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result.
It’s only after the Dáil goes through the tedious formalities of today that the real business begins. Kenny and Martin are expected to meet this evening and finally things will step up a gear. The reality of Dáil numbers means whichever of the two big parties forms the next government, they will need the support of the other.
How the two parties reach a deal is not clear, nor is the likely substance of that deal. If they don’t reach one there’ll be a second election. There will be areas of policy that they will find agreement on and, as we explored last night, that will have to include water. But don’t expect this to happen quickly. It’s 40 days since the election and we could conceivably be waiting another month for a government to emerge.
The agenda
10am: It may still be a caretaker government, but the cabinet meets to discuss what’s likely to be relatively slim agenda.
Pre-Dáil sitting: Fine Gael will hold last minute talks with independents in a bid to secure votes for Enda Kenny. Labour’s parliamentary party is due to meet in Leinster House.
2.30pm: The Dáil will immediately set about trying to elect a Taoiseach. Enda Kenny will be first, followed by Micheál Martin, and then Ruth Coppinger for AAA-PBP. Expect lots of voting and no Taoiseach at the end of it.
Afterwards: There will be statements on Dáil reform off the back of the morning committee meeting. These are due to run until 8.30pm.
7pm: Kenny and Martin are due to hold their first face to face talks tonight.
Inside Leinster House
Whenever the new government is formed it will need a chief whip, someone responsible for rounding up TDs to ensure they vote with the government. The role has been held by Wexford TD Paul Kehoe for the last five years but he’s not expected to retain it. It takes on new importance this time around given the next government will be operating with a smaller majority – or none – in what’s expected to be a reformed Dáil, with more of an input from opposition parties.
It’s by no means a foregone conclusion, but if Fine Gael leads that next government the names mentioned for the role include Dublin Bay South TD Eoghan Murphy and junior minister Simon Harris who’ve both been heavily involved in the party’s discussions with independents. It will be a thankless task to keep everyone onside and even more difficult if independents are involved.
Simon Harris and Eoghan Murphy are rumoured to be in contention for the role of government chief whip. Leo Varadkar probably isn't. Laura Hutton / Photocall Ireland
Laura Hutton / Photocall Ireland / Photocall Ireland
What the others are saying
Fianna Fáil has committed to scrapping water charges within six months of taking office, according to the Irish Independent.
Meanwhile, the Irish Times says the party will examine a referendum on public ownership of the water system.
The Irish Independent also says that Labour leader Joan Burton is being warned not to enter government by her party.
Independent TDs have criticised Fine Gael’s document for a partnership government as a “cut and paste job” from the party’s manifesto according to the Irish Examiner.
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How do I run for the election? I could do with a 6 figure salary and absolutely no consequences for telling lies or doing anything wrong in my job. #VoteMe
@Tessa Madden: I’ll buy everyone who votes for me lunch. I’ll also promise you anything you want just for your vote. Then when I get in I’ll do whatever I want in terms of decisions, I’ll ignore all of the promises I said and I’ll fill my pockets as much as I can in this short time in charge because I couldn’t careless about the future of Ireland, the future of my own family is all I care about it. #VoteMe
Jesus labour are the gift that keep on giving ha. Alan Kelly in charge and all of a sudden then thobk they have a conscience. Would make ya possibly get them your No.4 vote. Almost. God love her hasn’t a hope and either do FG on retaining the seat, with their voice of a generation ( with supreme Court parents and grandparents) candidate. Both really understand the working man
Labour’s vision of Ireland became FGs version of Ireland when in government. Reduced to six seats , thats when they discovered the road to Damascus moment..
Another well heeled socialist.. Like Mickey D’s daughter, if you can’t win a real election take a handy number in the Senate spouting oh so progressive platitudes that mean nothing. Our political class are useless. Bacik offers nothing only soundbites for affluent liberals. Labour lost touch with working people a long time ago.
There hasn’t been a good leader of the Labour Party since Dick Spring, Ivana puts her name forward in every election that arises, seanad, council, presidentdency and now have another go at becoming a TD, which she has done enough time and not be elected, this by-election is in constituency where I live, personally I can’t see her been elected, certainly not by residents who live in the working class areas such as myself.
Bacik has never been elected. That is not going to change.
As she takes a 70,000eur a year salary from taxpayers for her unelected position of senator, she can properly be regarded as a thief.
The Seanad is a stain on Irish democracy.
@Rob Jones: Being an excellent lawyer doesn’t make her a good public representative. She should stick to law and teaching. She has no chance. Labour is a dead party to the working class after IPhone-Joan.
@Paul Whitehead: “Labour is a dead party to the working class after IPhone-Joan.” Don’t forget Alan Kelly and Eamon ‘Labour’s way or Frankfort’s Way’ Gilmore. No way Labour…Just go away.
Bacik is head and shoulders in intellect above most Irish politicians which means of course she’s never elected. I’m amazed she’s never got in somewhere. I’d vote for her if I was in DB South. I don’t always agree with her but at least she has ideas
Whatever your views on the Labour Party Ivana Bacik is a good opreator with a long track record on social issues and would be a great addition to the Dáil. She does not deserve the negativity on show in these comments.
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