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Junior Certificate examinations will not go ahead this year, Department confirms

Minister for Education Norma Foley briefed teaching unions on the plans this afternoon.

LAST UPDATE | 17 Feb 2021

THE JUNIOR CERTIFICATE examinations will not go ahead this year, it has been confirmed. 

The announcement was made in a statement released by the Department of Education this evening. 

Schools are to be provided with guidance on continuing to engage this year’s Junior Certificate students in online learning and assessment while schools remain closed and through in-person learning when schools reopen. 

It has also been confirmed that Leaving Cert students are to be given the option not to sit exams and instead apply for a calculated grade accredited by the State Examinations Commission.

Minister for Education Norma Foley briefed teaching unions on the plans this afternoon after outlining the proposals at a meeting of the Cabinet sub-committee on Education.  

This evening’s announcement comes after intense discussions followed the decision of the Association of Secondary Teachers of Ireland (ASTI) to pull out of talks on the Leaving Cert last week. 

Speaking to RTÉ’s Morning Ireland, the TUI’s Martin Marjoram said the union had come to a decision that the Junior Cert couldn’t run. 

“We have come to a decision we don’t like coming to but on balance the Junior Certificate examination cannot this year,” he said. “It’s a decision we have made with regret but we have called for.”

Marjoram said that it had been previously the case to run both sets of exams at the same time, but that extra space would be needed to accommodate students sitting the Leaving Cert this year. 

In a statement last night, the TUI said that an early decision on the Junior Cert would ensure appropriate alternative assessment was put in place for those students while alleviating avoidable stress for students. 

The union said: “This decision would also prevent excessive workload and pressure for teachers and school management who are currently trying to ensure that Leaving Certificate students complete their SEC second components of assessments – for example, orals, project work, coursework – while also engaging in emergency remote teaching and learning for all other student cohorts.”

Marjoram said this morning that a system of alternative assessment of Junior Cert students in school would be welcome. 

“It’ll allow those students to move on to pick Leaving Cert subjects and move onto the next stage,” he said.

With reporting by Sean Murray

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    Apr 16th 2018, 1:35 PM

    How about legalising it for medicinal purposes first?

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    Mute Thomas Maher
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    Apr 16th 2018, 1:41 PM

    @The Risen: how about just legalise it full stop. Take the criminal gangs out of the equation and collect the vat on it.

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    Apr 16th 2018, 1:42 PM

    @The Risen: Hopefully a competent politician can step forward to legislate for this.

    The last attempt while well intentioned was a shambles and was written so badly it would have wreaked havoc to proceed and so failed to pass the senate.

    Then for some reason, folks decided to blame that FG pharmacy owner citing vested interests, which is fine if you wanna be a sore loser, but if we actually want to offer medical marijuana as a legit option, the motions put forward need to be well written, otherwise it cannot pass the senate. Blaming senators for voting no, who did so on legislative contradiction grounds, completely cops out on the work required to solve the problem.

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    Apr 16th 2018, 1:45 PM

    @Ciarán Ó Fallúin: “how about just legalise it full stop”

    Oh, I agree 100%. But I think it would be faster to legalise it first for medicinal use, getting it to the people who need it the most as quickly as possible.

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    Apr 16th 2018, 1:49 PM

    @The Risen: putting words in my mouth. (The other fella, Mr Maher said that). I’d agree with you though, it’s easier to legislate in stages and those who need this most should be prioritised.

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    Apr 16th 2018, 1:51 PM

    @Ciarán Ó Fallúin: Yep, clicked on the wrong reply button there. it was @ Thomas.

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    Apr 16th 2018, 1:54 PM

    @The Risen: how about pushing for both lets walk and chew gum and get this legalised,The green party are a bunch of sellouts who wrecked the country in 2009 in the crash but The majority of Irish would be ok with this, its the drink industry blocking it cause it would empty bars and ER’s of their customers.and cost them profits when people dont need to binge drink to relax, be it a magic cake or an edible.

    Also cannabis for medical use has massive benefits that big pharma would prefer not allowed in Ireland. Be it for recreation or medical use, Ireland could benefit from cannabis if it was legal and properly regulated and produce to a high standard that drinks and pills sold in Ireland are. It would also reduce crime and lost of taxes to the black market drugs trade another group who do not want cannabis legalised.

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    Apr 16th 2018, 2:04 PM

    @Matthew O’Kane: “The majority of Irish would be ok with this, its the drink industry blocking it cause it would empty bars”

    Legalization will not cause the bars to empty, just like legalizing gay marriage didn’t cause society to crumble or abortion the same. It’s about choice.

    I am an adult, I should be allow make choices for myself because I am of legal age to take full responsibility for my actions as long as my actions do not harm or cause distress to other people.

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    Apr 16th 2018, 2:20 PM

    @Matthew O’Kane: I agree. It will empty bars. A big reason why it’s not available for medical reasons.

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    Apr 16th 2018, 2:40 PM

    @Oscar Scatters: Exactly Oscar, thats the real crux of the matter. Stop its prohibition and allow adults to make up their own minds, I would suggest however that for recreational use the age limit should be 21.

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    Apr 16th 2018, 2:42 PM

    @Thomas Maher: I agree fully with decriminalisation for cannabis and think the Green Party are making a good move to move beyond bulbs and bikes and appeal to younger voters etc. But I don’t understand how people seem to think that criminal gangs will walk away from ‘the equation’ as you put it- that makes no sense , it just isn’t logical to expect criminals to stop dealing because there are coffee shops – same as cigarette black markets – too lucrative and simplistic to think this makes them stop. All the evidence from Amsterdam would also indicate that just because there are legal coffee shops that the criminals flee – quite the opposite actually. I still think Ireland should decriminalise – but lets not pretend that makes criminality go away !!!!!!

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/feb/20/netherlands-becoming-a-narco-state-warn-dutch-police

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    Apr 16th 2018, 2:46 PM

    @Frank Cauldhame: 18

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    Apr 16th 2018, 2:46 PM

    @Dave Hammond: Nobody said they would go away, but i would prefer to see the tax revenue from sales ploughed back into the country instead of some faceless dealers cashpile.

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    Apr 16th 2018, 2:55 PM

    @Gus Sheridan: Reason I say 21 is that cannabis ‘can’ affect the developing mind for a small minority of teen users. Better to be safe than sorry.

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    Apr 16th 2018, 2:56 PM

    @Niall Quinlan: So does alcohol!

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    Apr 16th 2018, 2:59 PM

    @Frank Cauldhame: If you’re old enough to vote you’re old enough to toke.

    @Dave Hammond: I don’t know anybody that thinks crime will disappear once cannabis is legal?

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    Apr 16th 2018, 2:59 PM

    @Gus Sheridan: I think 21 would be safer not that its going to kill anyone but for the reasons outlined by the above posts.

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    Apr 16th 2018, 3:07 PM

    @Dave Hammond: Good points Dave but if it was sold legally in ‘coffee shops’ people wouldn’t have to enter seedy parts of the city to buy it.

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    Apr 16th 2018, 5:14 PM

    @Dave Hammond: the reason criminals still involved in cannabis in Netherlands is because it only becomes a legal product when it lands in the coffe shop. Growing is not legal. So the Netherlands government are effectively laundering money

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    Apr 16th 2018, 6:53 PM

    @Frank Cauldhame: because we’re in America all of a sudden? Or the more dangerous alcohol should be the first drug of choice? Or because making kids be only ones who stay in the illegal system makes sense?

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    Apr 16th 2018, 7:28 PM

    @Frank Cauldhame: why?

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    Apr 16th 2018, 8:23 PM

    @Thomas Maher: you know that it would be over priced and people will go back to the steel for it. A pint of Guinness is cheaper in London than it is in Dublin.

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    Apr 16th 2018, 8:27 PM

    @The Risen: They did?

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    Apr 17th 2018, 1:00 AM

    @The Risen: this needs to be legalised for anyone who is suffering chronic pain and believe me you it is intolerable

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    Apr 17th 2018, 1:23 AM

    @The Risen: why first ? Why not both ?

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    Apr 17th 2018, 4:28 AM

    @Matthew O’Kane: would empty ER’s, utter nonsense. You would have increased volumes in ER’s. You seriously people will not use and drive impaired, cars, bikes, buses?

    Should never be legalised. There’s a reason the UK rescinded the more lax laws they brought in on cannibals use/possession….

    Medically prescribed I have no issue with, but legalising for social use. No thanks….

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    Jan 9th 2019, 10:26 AM

    @Rónán: when someone gets too high they say “nah man I can’t drive yet I gotta chill here a few” a drunk dude will fight you for his keys. You’re just delusional if you think there would be MORE ER visits. I’m not saying there’ll be less because the drunks won’t stop drinking but it’s not gonna be someone stoned taking up that bed

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    Jan 14th 2019, 9:26 PM

    @Thomas Maher: you got a perfect point
    wickr.. buyspacemonkey or whatsApp +1 (470) 231-8854
    to get some quality caned weed for your self

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    Jan 14th 2019, 9:30 PM

    @The Risen: you got a perfect point we are out here on the back ground waiting to open dispensaries
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    Apr 16th 2018, 1:37 PM

    First decent Green Party policy in over a decade!

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    Apr 16th 2018, 5:19 PM

    @David Grey: Seems their whole agenda has worked – find something, anything, to get them noticed again.

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    Apr 16th 2018, 8:13 PM

    @Sandra O’Fucáif: “The reefer butt is called a roach because it resembles a cockroach”

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    Apr 16th 2018, 9:20 PM

    @David Grey: wouldn’t go that far

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    Apr 16th 2018, 1:43 PM

    Repeal the 8th of an ounce.

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    Apr 16th 2018, 1:52 PM

    @Ciarán Ó Fallúin: Brilliant!

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    Apr 16th 2018, 5:52 PM

    @Ciarán Ó Fallúin: Comment of the year so far!

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    Apr 16th 2018, 10:27 PM

    Well, someone’s bitter.

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    Apr 17th 2018, 6:30 PM

    @: You have no idea

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    Apr 16th 2018, 2:17 PM

    All I know is I got my hands on some medicinal cannabis for my arthritic knees …. just trying out of sheer desperation and phobic about knee replacement. Couldn’t beleive the difference after a few days , no waking at night feeling like a volcanoe in my knee , able to enjoy walking around town again, it was nothing short of miraculous…. . What is criminal is the governments blocking access to this amazing medecine.

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    Apr 16th 2018, 3:12 PM

    @marie

    If you don’t mind me asking was it oil or cannabis herb. Did you smoke it or vape or what was the process for taking it?

    Asking for a friend.

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    Apr 16th 2018, 3:45 PM

    @john doe: asking for myself … arthritis in the knees taking away the quality of life !

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    Apr 16th 2018, 4:33 PM

    @john doe: small bit of research will inform u on most effective ways to ingest. Needless to say, mixing with tobacco is the worst u can do. Vaping seems safe, edibles safe. Many ways an products out there.

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    Jan 14th 2019, 10:07 PM

    @Marie Thomas: i hope they will also give us the chance to sell discreetly
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    Apr 16th 2018, 1:36 PM

    Whatever about the cafes, it would be common sense to have access to cannabis-based medicine.

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    Apr 16th 2018, 1:42 PM

    it’s about time tax it and regulate it correctly the crime levels will drop and the country benifit from the taxes it’s a win win

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    Apr 16th 2018, 1:52 PM

    @Mick Mccabe: Unless you’re an idiot.

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    Apr 16th 2018, 2:41 PM

    @Mick Mccabe: all for decriminalisation …. but do you honestly think criminals will just forgo that source of income and not turn to something else?

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    Apr 16th 2018, 5:16 PM

    @Pablo: Well, they can open their own shops and start a legal business.

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    Apr 16th 2018, 7:23 PM

    @Pablo: look at the American states where they have it legalised the crime levels have dropped and that has been proven but there will always be crime no matter what unfortunately but we have to move forward and stop living in the past if it’s done correctly it can benefit the country in more ways than 1 tourism taxes ect

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    Apr 16th 2018, 1:34 PM

    “How do you do, fellow kids? ” – The Green Party.

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    Apr 16th 2018, 1:45 PM

    @Neal Ireland Hello.: This is The Green Party’s main policy for government should they get into power after next election.

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    Apr 16th 2018, 3:01 PM

    @Jamie Jj Tobin: if it is then I will vote green and smoke green

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    Apr 16th 2018, 3:34 PM

    @Jamie Jj Tobin: As much as I am completely on-board with this – I still wont vote for the f*****s

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    Apr 16th 2018, 4:02 PM

    @Gavin Conran: and that is exactly why it won’t happen.

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    Apr 16th 2018, 9:15 PM

    @Gavin Conran: how about caring about the environment or climate change? You probably don’t care about either do you because if you did the greens are the only party taking these issues seriously

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    Apr 17th 2018, 12:06 AM

    @Jamie Jj Tobin: I’d trust a heroin dealer before I’d trust a Green Party politician

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    Apr 16th 2018, 1:36 PM

    Best of luck to them trying to get that in. I’ve never tried, dont think I will, but the medical benefits cannot be ignored. It could help a lot of people.

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    Apr 16th 2018, 1:53 PM

    Should be lagalised fully.

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    Apr 16th 2018, 1:55 PM

    It’s a no brainer . The sooner the better .

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    Apr 16th 2018, 2:04 PM

    Finally a party that lives up to they’re name

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    Apr 16th 2018, 2:56 PM

    @Darren Coyle: Class

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    Apr 16th 2018, 4:16 PM

    @Darren Coyle: beat me to it ;)

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    Apr 16th 2018, 2:00 PM

    Great idea, beats the current “Sweep it under the carpet, if you can’t see it then it’s not an issue” approach of the main political parties..

    Certainly would also bring more tourists to the country who want to legally enjoy cannabis too.

    Remove the profits from drug dealers and send the taxes to the state..

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    Apr 16th 2018, 1:42 PM

    Nice idea but knowing the Green Party they would somehow want massive taxes as part of it. They love the high taxes.

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    Apr 16th 2018, 9:18 PM

    @Slim Jim: attack the only party trying to prevent climate change by focusing on possible tax increases as at least 150,000 people die annually from droughts caused by climate change. You and those who liked your comment are why this planet is doomed

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    Apr 17th 2018, 12:09 AM

    @Marcus Briody: they took part in destroying this country and rotated their TD’s so they all got ministerial pensions. They are a bunch of cowboys.

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    Apr 16th 2018, 1:52 PM

    The green party are a bunch of sellouts who wrecked the country in 2009 in the crash but The majority of Irish would be ok with this, its the drink industry blocking it cause it would empty bars and ER’s of their customers.and cost them profits when people dont need to binge drink to relax, be it a magic cake or an edible.

    Also cannabis for medical use has massive benefits that big pharma would prefer not allowed in Ireland. Be it for recreation or medical use, Ireland could benefit from cannabis if it was legal and properly regulated and produce to a high standard that drinks and pills sold in Ireland are. It would also reduce crime and lost of taxes to the black market drugs trade another group who do not want cannabis legalised.

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    Apr 16th 2018, 9:13 PM

    @Matthew O’Kane: so how would you have solved a 24billion budget deficit combined with a banking system tens of billions in debt and double digit interest rates on Irish bonds? The greens didn’t cause the problem they had to deal with it and I have not heard anyone else tell me how it could have been handled any better. You would have done the same because there was no other option available.
    What they did do in government was bring in legislation to start dealing with climate change, you know the greatest problem facing humanity today that people like you clearly don’t take seriously because if you did you wouldn’t be attacking the only party trying to do anything about it while also pushing a liberal agenda

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    Apr 16th 2018, 2:55 PM

    Welcome policy initiative from the Green Party.
    I will now consider voting for them again, something I haven’t done since they went in with Ff.

    This is not a radical policy and only follows what is already happening in many European countries and American states.
    The coffee shop part, while I have no objection to it, might be better as stage 2 of the policy with stage 1 being cannabis clubs for permit holders and growing for personal use as is already in place in Spain, Portugal etc.

    Good to see a debate on this important personal freedom beginning.

    Well done Greens

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    Apr 16th 2018, 1:34 PM

    Imagine……………

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    Apr 16th 2018, 2:41 PM

    Got my vote

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    Apr 16th 2018, 2:14 PM

    No drug was ever improved by handing control to criminals. Recreation is fine . Addiction is a health problem.

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    Apr 16th 2018, 2:36 PM

    High times this happens. Current approach is a bit disjointed

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    Apr 16th 2018, 3:29 PM

    It Is beyond absurd to give anyone a charge for smoking cannabis .

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    Apr 16th 2018, 1:56 PM

    They won’t open these come up with a million different reasons not to. Yet open a center that gives a free kit to shoot up heroin.

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    Apr 16th 2018, 5:17 PM

    It should’ve been done years ago. If people want to use it then let them use it in peace.

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    Apr 16th 2018, 2:48 PM

    Eamon “AFROMAN” Ryan is taking sense, legalize it already, silly Old Testament gobble dee fook law, medicinal properties of MCD oil etc are apparent to all who need it. Cannabis itself could be a very good industry for the exchequer and hemps properties and uses are to many to mention. A no brainer (no pun intended)

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    Apr 16th 2018, 6:07 PM

    Legalise it fully, we dont even need to trial it as other countries and states have done that for us. Has any of them said it was the wrong decision? No. The tax this country would make on it would be a lifesaver at a time when our health system is severely under funded. Yes it would take a huge chunk of profits away from the criminal gangs but they will regroup and find other ways of making money, so all we can do there is hope that our guards and judges are on point during the criminals transition period. I feel we need to move fast as if the uk gets there before us then this could cripple our tourism industry but on the other hand if we manage to get this through first then we will see a large increase in tourists from the uk. Yes there is negative effects, 1 being people abusing, over using. An idea would be to start focusing on educating people on the risks of this now rather than after it passes. If im wrong please share your thoughts, maybe there is something im missing.

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    Jan 14th 2019, 9:20 PM

    @Adam McLoughlin: https://mils420dispensary.com/

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    Apr 16th 2018, 1:38 PM

    Story bud do ya need any bud ?

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    Apr 16th 2018, 2:13 PM

    Anyone interested in Irish cannabis/hemp history will enjoy the Dublin Hemp Museum podcast.

    https://www.buzzsprout.com/episodes/652852-george-sigerson

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    Apr 16th 2018, 1:38 PM

    People with medical needs cant get it, yet these headbangers come out with this pie in the sky…

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    Apr 16th 2018, 2:46 PM

    @MickNev: if you bothered to read the document, you’d see that legislating for medical use is also part of their proposal.

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    Apr 16th 2018, 2:52 PM

    A joint Oireachtas report about joints

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    Apr 16th 2018, 6:54 PM

    @Dave Thomas: Good man David.

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    Apr 16th 2018, 1:59 PM

    Ireland own Cheech & Chong party, both sitting in dail eireann trying to look drunk like all they rest. I wish this party would except some responsibility for their strategy policy’s while in government. Carbon taxes that make pensioners choose between food or warmth during winter months. Handing out 1000 euros in grants to people which inflated the peddle industry which has lead to more cyclists dying on our roads. Keeping Bertie and FF only stoner in power while lying about Ireland needing a bailout. PD’s, Greens and labour were only in it for the champagne lifestyles while corruption flourishes around them.

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    Apr 16th 2018, 9:23 PM

    @leartius: the effect of the carbon tax has been highly exaggerated what they did was to finally start taking action on climate change, which is killing 150,000 people annually in the third world because of droughts and has changed our winds so we have had northerly winds for months. The greens are the only party thinking long term you are clearly living in the past and attacking the only people trying to prevent the destruction of the planet

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    Apr 16th 2018, 2:03 PM

    Any Garda on here? I’d like to hear their opinion on this.

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    Apr 16th 2018, 2:10 PM

    @Gerry Ross: There are approximately 7 million Garda Journal users

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    Apr 16th 2018, 2:11 PM

    @Gerry Ross: Retired ,and i dont agree with it,

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    Apr 16th 2018, 2:13 PM

    @Gerry Ross:

    Who cares for there opinion, the people elect the politicians and the politicians will legislate based on what they campaigned for and the Garda will do as there told through that legislation, that’s how it works, the Garda have lots to say about the effects of alcohol every weekend but no one is listening, alcohol has a much bigger impact in society in a negative way.

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    Apr 16th 2018, 2:15 PM

    @Elvis King:

    Get back to work Elvis

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    Apr 16th 2018, 2:25 PM

    Why ?

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    Apr 16th 2018, 4:40 PM

    @Elvis King: Sorry i read you comment wrong , i am not a retired garda, gard , i am the other kind of gard

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    Apr 16th 2018, 5:10 PM

    @Stephen Kennedy: Because he likes to be on the wrong side of arguments.

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    Apr 16th 2018, 2:45 PM

    Probably the only way they would get any vote after the mess they made when last in power.

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    Apr 16th 2018, 3:40 PM

    Don’t they bring this up every few years and nothing ever happens?

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    Apr 16th 2018, 1:34 PM

    Whatever about criminalising ordinary joes…legalizing it won’t get rid of gangs

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    Apr 16th 2018, 1:37 PM

    @BigSFLou..ny: It certainly won’t, but it will enable adults to blaze a wholesome bowl of green legally. To sum up: Legalise, regulate, tax, enjoy.

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    Apr 16th 2018, 2:07 PM

    @Honeybadger197: ye no probs…but some people think the criminals will all of a sudden be out of a job and will become honest 9-5 workers…pfft

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    Apr 16th 2018, 2:21 PM

    @big sf
    They won’t disappear but a huge part of their funding stream would be cut off by legalisation

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    Apr 16th 2018, 2:51 PM

    @BigSFLou..ny: I don’t care about the job prospects of some dealer. I would prefer to see adults enjoy an occasional bowl and see the taxes generated benefitting the country. :)

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    Apr 16th 2018, 2:57 PM

    @Honeybadger197: legalize defo not decriminalize. Although I don’t think we are ready socially. The model in the Netherlands still has major crime element involved.

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    Apr 16th 2018, 3:05 PM

    @Mondo: I saw someone shared an article about that above. Must have a read of it.

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    Apr 16th 2018, 3:35 PM

    @john doe: yep and they will need to fill that vaccum….

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    Apr 16th 2018, 3:50 PM

    @Honeybadger197: I am all for legalisation but be aware that dealers will switch to selling harder drugs. ALL drugs need to be legalised.

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    Apr 16th 2018, 4:45 PM

    @Honeybadger197: it’s a complex process. The Portuguese legalized drugs in 2002 an we are only starting to fully look into this now. It’s defo the model I would look to. Also the selling of alcohol an cannabis together is prohibited, they don’t mix well. Would u post that article if ye get a chance??

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    Apr 16th 2018, 5:16 PM
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    Apr 16th 2018, 5:20 PM

    @honeybadger

    In my opinion, the reason that Netherlands are having the trouble they are, is that they have a sensible approach for personal use but have left they supply side a crime and therefore controlled by criminals.

    Full regulation including the supply side is what is required. Let’s learn from their mistakes as well as their successes (afaik they have lower rates of teen cannabis use than we do)

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    Apr 16th 2018, 5:59 PM

    @Honeybadger197: thanks. Agree 100% with John Doe. Interesting article but leaves out the massive discrepancy that they allow criminals to be involved in the cannabis business. That’s why I’d be for legalizing rather than decriminalize. Completely bypass the criminal element.

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    Apr 16th 2018, 6:13 PM
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    Apr 16th 2018, 7:38 PM

    @Mondo: they mix really fu(kin well..

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    Apr 16th 2018, 8:53 PM

    @Honeybadger197: cheers for that

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    Apr 16th 2018, 2:22 PM

    Only in Ireland. Parents bringing ill kids to coffee shops for treatment.

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    Apr 16th 2018, 3:29 PM

    Brings a whole new meaning to ‘hash tags’, and ‘happy hour’.

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    Apr 16th 2018, 1:36 PM

    We should probably tackle the Class A problem first. Those cafes will attract drug addicts hanging around otherwise.

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    Apr 16th 2018, 2:59 PM

    @alan
    There are already drug addicts hanging around.

    In states in usa where cannabis has been legalised opoid related deaths have been decreasing. An unexpected positive outcome of legal cannabis.

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    Apr 16th 2018, 2:52 PM

    The first cafe is to be named “Puff the Magic Dragon”.

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    Apr 16th 2018, 1:35 PM

    The LVA will have none of it

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    Apr 16th 2018, 1:56 PM

    Never Happen

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    Apr 16th 2018, 7:44 PM

    @Ez Hudson: look around at what’s going on elsewhere. Only a matter of time..

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    Apr 16th 2018, 2:00 PM

    Drugs like Drink are one of the oldest things used by man kind. They are wonder products that do so many things from health to house hold to automotive to fashion the list is endless.

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    Apr 16th 2018, 1:57 PM

    I’m sure the green party will add carbon tax like they have in the past to cripple people

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    Apr 16th 2018, 2:52 PM

    @dick dastardly: Emissions from cannabis joints are free for you to enjoy tax free!

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    Apr 16th 2018, 5:30 PM

    Why is the comment section on every article on Jackson/Olding closed?

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    Apr 16th 2018, 2:22 PM

    The benefit of alcohol, cannabis, religion and immersed in viewing televised sport is that these all cumulativley help to keep us pacified and passively content. Add reality TV, talent shows and television dross keeps us diverted.

    Bread and circuses keep us going. We don’t need change as long as we are indulged.

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    Apr 16th 2018, 2:25 PM

    Add the lottery and gambling for the full effect of a compliant people.

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    Apr 16th 2018, 2:26 PM

    @Michael Lang:

    You write as if your already stone Michael

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    Apr 16th 2018, 3:04 PM

    @courageous: funny that you should mention that.

    I had a short lucid interval but now I have an attack of the munchies.

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    Apr 16th 2018, 7:09 PM

    We all know the reason this common sense approach has not happened, and probably won’t, is because of all the golden handshakes passed around by the pharma companies in this country. If the govt won’t legalise full stop, then they need to allow the people of this country to decide for themselves….like they are doing with the 8th Amendment. Have a referendum.

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    Apr 16th 2018, 9:29 PM

    That is the best idea the greens gave ever had. Time to legalise.

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    Apr 16th 2018, 2:51 PM

    Bertie Ahern in breaking news has described the Green Party statement as all smokes and daggers.

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    Apr 16th 2018, 2:56 PM

    @Michael Lang: Yer a hoot Mick!

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    Apr 17th 2018, 8:34 AM

    One step at time, we are very close to some form of legalization in Ireland, let’s hope it’s sooner rather than later and Ireland as a nation is remembered for been a driving force in the emerging green industry.

    Lets not forget it’s only a plant and should of never been made illegal in the first place, it’s everyone’s fundamental right to grow and consume what ever plant that wish and that’s simply how it should be!

    When nature is made illegal and is been kept illegal you need to start questioning life itself and the country of which you live. Sometimes civil disobedience is the only way forward..

    Hempture

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    Apr 16th 2018, 5:09 PM

    Free De Weed

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    Apr 16th 2018, 1:30 PM

    Dew it.

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    Apr 16th 2018, 4:09 PM

    @Jasper Warner: execute order spliffty spliff

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    Apr 16th 2018, 4:30 PM

    Wow Common sense from the green party who usually come out with some amount of garbage, the economy would boom if this were ever to happen but you just know it isn’t

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    Apr 16th 2018, 2:24 PM

    Why discriminate against under 18s for access to alcohol and cannabis?

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    Apr 16th 2018, 4:31 PM

    One would think the widespread burning of plant matter is something the Green Party would be against.

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    Apr 17th 2018, 7:30 AM

    Legalise, regulate, tax!! :)

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    Apr 16th 2018, 7:20 PM

    They’re not called the green party for nothing

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    Apr 17th 2018, 1:16 AM

    If you get this across the line I will vote for you but l would much prefer if you tried to get it legalised for people who are suffering from chronic pain.

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    Apr 17th 2018, 12:31 PM

    It’s about time we adopted a grown up attitude to drugs in the country and in particular to Cannabis. The war on drugs has failed and made millionaires out of gangsters in the process. To keep going the way we are is madness. Legalise it and let adults make their own rational chioces about what they want to do and in the meantime collect the tax revenue. Criminals will not go away but it will hurt their bottom line. If it’s cheap enough in a coffee shop why would anyone buy off the street? We have better things for our police and courts to do than arrest and charge people with possession of small amounts for personal use.

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    Apr 16th 2018, 2:13 PM

    De criminalizing cannabis use in a country that can’t handle it’s drink, sounds like a wonderful idea

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    Apr 16th 2018, 2:32 PM

    @League of shadows: I agree that we have a drink problem, but there adverse affects of alcohol are far worse than cannabis

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    Apr 16th 2018, 9:07 PM

    @League of shadows: Not even remotely comparable.

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    Apr 16th 2018, 1:37 PM

    Looks like they’re allready here

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    Apr 16th 2018, 4:15 PM

    It would be the “Green” party ,wouldn’t it

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    Apr 16th 2018, 3:10 PM

    Where you can smoke indoors but only if it’s a joint. No thanks

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    Apr 16th 2018, 3:20 PM

    @ed w: plenty of pubs

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    Apr 16th 2018, 2:00 PM

    Methinks the greens are all stoned man when you hear the dude come out with this really weird stuff.

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    Apr 16th 2018, 3:02 PM

    Its not weird michael. Its fact based policy that has been tried and worked in a number of other juristictions.

    Surely We should be letting facts not emotion inform government policy.

    It is far far less harmful than alcohol for which we accept regulation as the best model to deal with.

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    Apr 16th 2018, 2:50 PM

    I would invite my partner to go to one of these brown cafes but she insists that we go dutch.

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    Apr 16th 2018, 3:51 PM

    @Michael Lang: good one… would they by any chance have the hash cakes that ya get in the Dutch cafes instead of the joints as I do not not want to go back smoking again and might be tempted . Oh I do want a few to invite some friends around for tea !

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    Apr 16th 2018, 4:35 PM

    @Michael Lang: u do realize that u can’t smoke in brown cafes??

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    Apr 16th 2018, 6:46 PM

    @Mondo: not in the ones I have been in and nice range of nicely priced product. I never inhale, ahem.

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    Apr 16th 2018, 4:43 PM

    The headbangers party!

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    Apr 16th 2018, 8:04 PM

    Did anybody mention that smoking is illegal indoors in cafes, pubs and other public places… not just smoking but vaping is prohibited as well in some cases although not know the lega basis for this – but these cafes would have to be outdoors like the smoking areas in pubs and bars or else we will all be heading there for an indoor ciggie…

    I think that the current law and legislation is more of a hindrance then a help and certainly it is ridiculous that we have loads of class A and B drugs prescribed but cannot get class C drug on prescription.

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    Apr 17th 2018, 12:11 AM

    Medicinal would be good. Also decriminalisation of low quantities on a person for personal use would be good too. Making it legal and taxing it would be great for the economy and we all know (Forbes) The marijuana market is estimated to be worth over 20billion by 2020. It’s complicated though and could go wrong quickly. Quality and regulations would be first, then tax, then health and safety for these coffee shops to ensure no second hand smoke or underage are affected. If you want the health benefits of marijuana without getting high, research CBD products. They are great against inflammation like arthritis and acne. They are also great for anxiety, stress, sleeping and moods. CBD products are legal in Ireland as they cannot get you high without THC which these products don’t have. Fun Topic.

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    Apr 17th 2018, 2:41 AM

    I see only benefits if this will happen. More tourists will visit Ireland, also this will be huge bang for economy, less alcohol consumption ( be honest? Alcohol is legal poison, family destroyer and so on ).
    People will have legal and easy access to medical marijuana to fight cancer and other illnesses problems. Black market is full of toxic sprayed marijuana to make it more heavier to gain more benefits for people who don’t care about others. Will be more love peace and people will really appreciate this!!!

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    Apr 16th 2018, 3:00 PM

    As long as no tobacco is sold or consumed that is fine.

    Will there be a zero tolerance for dopes driving?

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    Apr 16th 2018, 2:14 PM

    Remember Head shops, and what the drug dealers did to them? Expect arson attacks on any cannabis cafe thats opened.

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    Apr 16th 2018, 5:33 PM

    What Green Party ? They are has-been’s. At least they should use common sense and legalise medical cannibis to more than 7 people.

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    Apr 16th 2018, 3:02 PM

    If we are stopped by members of the Force, will they ask us to breath into their mouths.

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    Apr 16th 2018, 3:20 PM

    @Michael Lang: yes, that’s exactly it.

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    Apr 16th 2018, 5:28 PM

    Former Green Party member John Gormley wants a system of tax bands on the weed emissions, if you have really expensive high end weed it’s €5 for 1kg. If however you choose a lesser variety of weed, older but perhaps still a reliable product, the Greens will advocate a tax of €59865 per Kg. The Greens, the gift that keeps on giving.

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    Apr 17th 2018, 12:14 AM

    It’s a difficult one. Making it legal and taxing it would be a plus, but alot could go wrong quickly. Decriminalisation of small quantity should be done alright and access to medicinal forms also. At least CBD products are legal in Ireland to get the benefits of marijuana like help with pains, inflammation, anxiety, stress and mood. If you have arthritis look into CBD products. It will help you without getting you high as they are free from THC which is what gets you high in general marijuana.

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    Nov 5th 2018, 2:07 PM

    It should have been legalised years ago all of the jobs it would have created. The money that it would have made from tax like in California where wine was where they raised the most tax money but now it’s the cannabis that California gets more tax money from also our jails would not have as many people in them so the jail system will be less crowded. Also it is less harmful than alcohol or tobacco no liver disease or cancer from cannabis. It would take a lot of money all of the hand of the gangs and people would not be going to jail for smoking a plant why can’t somebody grow a few plants in their own homes for themselves not harming anybody not even harming themselves but having a bigger ESB bill more money for the government.

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    Apr 16th 2018, 2:48 PM

    Is this a puff piece from the Green Party?

    I hope that they are not just blowing smoke or acting the dope.

    The nominated spokesperson on this topic is to be Mary Jane Ryan.

    It is wrong to say that only skanks take skunk or vice versa.

    As the Green Party TD might say. My seat for a spliff.

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    Jan 14th 2019, 10:03 PM

    @Michael Lang: i hope they will also give us the chance to sell discreetly
    wickr.. buyspacemoney OR
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    to get some fire>>>

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    Apr 16th 2018, 4:20 PM
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    Apr 16th 2018, 8:15 PM

    It should be given to the RA, to help them loosen their tongues and tell us where the disappeared are buried,once and for all.

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    Apr 16th 2018, 6:25 PM

    As a Dutch person I am continuously amazed by the ignorance of people like the Greens when they keep referring to the Dutch approach to soft drugs: https://merryjane.com/news/dutch-cannabis-activist-suicide-attempt-netherlands-restrictive-drug-policies

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    Apr 16th 2018, 6:48 PM

    @Evert Bopp: I thought that you exclusively specialized in Referendums? Anti same sex marriage, pro 8th Amendment etc.

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    Apr 16th 2018, 9:53 PM

    Wtf are these clowns thinking. OK, medicated cannabis is acceptable and is fine but the illegal one, seriously, its bad enough citys reek of the smell but if they legalise it, it will make drug dealing shoot through the roof. Brilliant idea guys.

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    Apr 18th 2018, 2:01 PM

    @Dylan Conroy: WOW! If your the sperm that won the race imagine what the ones that lost were like! Please stop contributing to articles you clearly have no idea about. That actually made me laugh.

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    Jan 14th 2019, 10:15 PM

    How do we go about it’s legalization? and how to stop it’s consumption by the under age ?

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    Jan 14th 2019, 9:42 PM

    you got a perfect point we are out here on the back ground waiting to open dispensaries
    wickr.. buyspacemonkey or
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