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Leah Farrell

Delayed Junior Cert results to be issued on Wednesday 23 November

The resutls are typically released in October.

JUNIOR CERT EXAMINATION results will be issued to students on 23 November.

The Covid-19 pandemic meant that formal Junior Cert examinations did not take place in the previous two years but in 2019 the results were issued on 4 October. 

This year’s exams went ahead but the State Examination Commission did not confim until today when the results would be released to students. 

In a statement today, the SEC pointed to “very significant examiner shortages” as a cause of the delay and said results would be issued on Wednesday 23 November.

Results will be available in schools and candidates can also access their results online from 4pm on that date.

The number of examiners available to mark Junior Cert exams this year was 30% less than the number in 2019.

The SEC also pointed to a later issue date for Leaving Cert results, and added: “Priority was given to the Leaving Certificate given the importance of these results.”

This year, Leaving Certificate results were issued on 2 September and the appeal results came out five weeks later on 7 October, in time for the CAO offers season.

Marking in most subjects has now been completed and the processing of results is ongoing.

However, in subjects where there is an acute examiner shortage the marking is still ongoing.

The SEC noted that in most subjects the number of teachers available to act as examiners was less than the number required to mark that subject within the normal summer marking window.

In all subjects, marking continued for an extended period over the summer and with many examiners had to take on additional scripts.

The SEC said it “appreciates that candidates and their parents/guardians may be disappointed that these results are issuing later than normal”.

In advance of next year’s exams, the SEC said it will be reviewing “how best to ensure the availability of teachers in the required numbers to complete this important examination work”.

Increased rates of payment were approved for examiners this year, and the SEC says an €11 million allocation in this year’s Budget will ensure these increased rates will be maintains going forward.

Chair of the Joint Committee on Education and Further and Higher Education, Deputy Paul Kehoe, said this allocation “will be essential in avoiding a similar scenario next year”.

He added: “Minister for Education Norma Foley has said a comprehensive review will allow for detailed scrutiny of the underlying issues.”

Deputy Kehoe also said the “recruitment issue has devalued the exam process and made life more difficult for students, especially those who need to make a decision on whether or not they will do Transition Year”.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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    Oct 18th 2022, 8:41 AM

    Results are released in September! Norma Foley needs to resign, between this and the school bus fiasco she is abysmal at her job!

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    Oct 18th 2022, 8:44 AM

    @John Long: it’s the junior cert , it really doesn’t matter

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    Oct 18th 2022, 8:45 AM

    @Ciaran: The kids put the effort in. Should that be dismissed?

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    Oct 18th 2022, 8:46 AM

    @Ciaran: except to the kids who did the exams

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    Oct 18th 2022, 8:50 AM

    @John Long: Get over yourself, it’s the junior cert, an exam of no importance of any description.

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    Oct 18th 2022, 8:50 AM

    @Ciaran: you seem to have the same attitude as the rest of the government. It really doesn’t matter!

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    Oct 18th 2022, 8:52 AM

    @Justin Gillespie: No.

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    Oct 18th 2022, 8:59 AM

    @Justin Gillespie: it is important as it’s basic requirement for apprenticeships.

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    Oct 18th 2022, 9:14 AM

    @Justin Gillespie: I think it’s you that needs to get over yourself not every wants to go on to leaving cert so junior cert is very important to those that want to go for an apprenticeship instead.

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    Oct 18th 2022, 12:12 PM

    @Bernard Mc Grath: you might be going over his head here. I doubt he even knows what apprenticeships are let alone their relation to the JC

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    Oct 18th 2022, 1:34 PM

    @John Long: This is the SEC, not the DES. So, no matter what you think of Norma, this isn’t her fault.

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    Oct 18th 2022, 3:46 PM

    @sean o’dhubhghaill: Her position is minister of education!

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    Oct 18th 2022, 8:59 AM

    We keep forgetting that exam fees are paid for a product that has not been delivered in time. Maybe the State Exam commission should refund for being in default of an undertaking.

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    Oct 18th 2022, 10:56 AM

    @Irish big fellow: There has been no exam fees for the last three years nearly because of Covid

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    Oct 18th 2022, 8:44 AM

    Clearly gave this zero priority. Money on offer vs hours and expertise expected not attracting numbers needed, payment for those that do the job takes months to come through. Corrections completed long ago and yet results delayed and delayed and delayed. Ball dropped.

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    Oct 18th 2022, 8:57 AM

    Junior cert provides valuable experience for future state exams, it important the results are released in a prompt manner as people who decided to drop out and take up an apprenticeship need them as it is a requirement for apprenticeships.

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    Oct 18th 2022, 9:45 AM

    I don’t think it can be overstated how completely worthless it is as a learning aid to receive exam results 5 and a half months after the exam.

    Students will already be neck deep in a new curriculum by then and preparing for christmas tests on that. They won’t even remember what the questions were in an exam so long and will have already made subject choice or higher level decisions already.

    The whole thing is just an insult to students. Forced to sit a state exam the state has seemingly little interest in correcting. It should be a resigning matter for the Education minister but it’s Ireland and we’re used to tolerating less.

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    Oct 18th 2022, 10:25 AM

    Correct me if I’m wrong; Teachers are paid 12 months of the year, yet are paid extra for correcting papers. How is it not a mandatory part of the job??

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    Oct 18th 2022, 1:38 PM

    @El Grogan: Do you want LC exams to be marked by people who don’t want to mark it and who don’t care? What do you do with those, who make a pig’s ear if it? Do you take them off the job and pay them less? So the people who remain marking thw state exams get paid more? Oh, wait…………………..

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    Oct 18th 2022, 2:52 PM

    @El Grogan: I had a similar conversation regarding the leaving cert results. From my understanding of what I got in reply, normal teachers don’t mark state exams, professional exam markers do. My point at the time was that I found this strange as teachers are paid over the marking period yet this is not part of their job. In France, for example, it is. Not all teachers are needed but each teacher chosen, gets a mail detailing what marking centre they are required to attend to mark papers. Exams end in early July and results are published near the end of July, despite the student population being much larger.

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    Oct 18th 2022, 2:56 PM

    @David Stapleton: You can efficiently and accurately mark 25 exams per day. At 5 days a week over 3 weeks that is about 350+ exams per corrector.

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    Oct 18th 2022, 8:39 AM

    Best of luck to all

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    Oct 18th 2022, 10:25 AM

    The results are typically released mid September

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    Oct 18th 2022, 9:36 AM

    I think the junior cert is pointless unless the person wants to leave school afterwards and get an apprenticeship. It’s alot of unnecessary pressure to put on a teenager if they go to do their leaving certificate because when you get that then the junior cert is nothing

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    Oct 18th 2022, 11:11 AM

    @Anthony Hilton: look up the reason

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    Oct 18th 2022, 10:02 AM

    I remember my first day in 4th year. “The junior cert meant sod all lads….the leaving cert will be 10 times as hard and you’ll have less time to learn it all as this is a doss year”

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    Oct 18th 2022, 10:11 AM

    Where did all the examiners go?! 1 in 3 disappeared?
    Was it down to the post-covid travel bottleneck or something else?

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    Oct 18th 2022, 12:21 PM

    @Rachel Ray: the problem at the moment comes from two sources: dumbing down of educational standards, accompanied by students’ sense of entitlement. Who would want to involve themselves in a situation where everybody demands that they do well and if they don’t, go for rechecks. A neighbour of mine is a teacher and according to her the economic imperative to get as many people through education right up to college standard has created chaos since she is caught between retaining her own integrity re marking and giving in to economics that insist everybody must do well and then pay for the next stage of their education

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    Oct 18th 2022, 3:02 PM

    @Rachel Ray: They made the perfectly rational decision that time with their families was more important than money, maybe?

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