Ever wondered what a census at a Zoo looks like?

No everything other than Ebola. Worst President in History. At least Bush had some cojones.

You said everything. You lied, just like Obama!

Seriously Darryl, Bush has balls??? Tiny little shrew balls maybe, at a stretch….

Balls? I have balls! Now watch this drive.

Sean
It will contravene EU health & safety regulations, never be allowed.

I think I might book a ticket on your ark, Sean!

2 of everything. Except of course the political species

Guide to Treating and Preventing Ebola…
http://www.arhf.nl/docs/Amma4Africa_Ebola_Manual_Aug_2014_en.pdf

Ryan,that actually makes it worse. Because if someone is coming to Ireland from West Africa they have to take at least two flights and come in contact with a lot of people. Someone in an earlier article said it’s relatively easy to retrace the steps of someone who is infectious, but this assumes that the person has perfect recall of all those he/she has met over the past number of days and that they have no reason to hide details of their journey.

This is the link to an article I read in the Guardian today. It’s worth reading in its entirety:
http:// http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/oct/04/ebola-zaire-peter-piot-outbreak

“Peter Piot was a researcher at a lab in Antwerp when a pilot brought him a blood sample from a Belgian nun who had fallen mysteriously ill in Zaire

‘In 1976 I discovered Ebola – now I fear an unimaginable tragedy’

‘In large cities – particularly in chaotic slums – it is virtually impossible to find those who had contact with patients, no matter how great the effort. That is why I am so worried about Nigeria as well. The country is home to mega-cities like Lagos and Port Harcourt, and if the Ebola virus lodges there and begins to spread, it would be an unimaginable catastrophe.’ ”

I agree with you Ryan that we should have rigorous screening of people coming in to the country, and not just those whose point of origin in West Africa.

Apologies for the length of this comment.
 

I’m not saying we should not take major precautions. I actually wish the govt would let the emergency managers do more, I’d terminate all travel to and from the region indirectly to Ireland, since it would leave no real footprint on them economically for us cos were so small, I’d ask the HSE and OEP to come up with an Ebola specific pandemic plan, I’d distribute the protective gear from the warehouses to the hospital basements so it’s ready to hand.
It’s easy to retrace someones steps through contact tracing if you know what major waypoints they’ve hit, they might not remember every single person they touched against but if you know they were at the airport you can run through the CCTV, its harder with pandemic flu but with Ebola they have to exchange body fluids and you do remember who you did that with, if someone bleeds or pukes on you you will remember it.

I’m not trying to say it’s not a threat, it’s a MAJOR threat, I’m just trying to keep the threat in proportion. The odds are 5percent of it getting here, that is TINY. People who shared a lift with the Spanish nurse were panicking in Spain, people in the UK were canceling school visits by a guest speaker from Africa because they were Afraid she might infect their kids, the hysteria is getting really out of hand and someone needs to be keeping the threat in proportion to counter all the people posting hype and conspiracy theories.

Hi Ryan. I’d hazard a guess that way more then 600 people from Africa fly into the UK every day. Maybe you meant 6000? There are several flights a day from Johannesburg, Cape Town and Durban, on at least 3 airlines (BA, SAA, Virgin)….there is a daily flight from Harare, and Windhoek and more than one a day from Nairobi and Mombasa…regular flights from most countries every day…most of these long haul flights….I know that Ebola isn’t present in any of the places I mentioned but just felt it necessary to correct the 600 number. Thanks

Hi again Ryan…whereas Ireland would be in a very good position to treat any Ebola patient in isolation it isnt true that we have stockpiles of adult and pediatric preparations of all the antivirual drugs, one antiviral drug absent from the stockpile is a drug specific to Ebola. Thanks for your comments.

Hi Daniel – Just to correct you, mayybe you didn’t know that there are already restrictions in place which are working……most airlines that had flewn to the affected countries (Guinea, Liberia, Sierra Leone) stopped flying months ago…eg British Airways which extended the flight ban and cancelled all flights/bookings up to January 2015. …..in addition all departing (and arriving) passengers are screened at all airports in the countries affected (for the flights that still operate) …. also this is screening is happening in neighbouring countries where there is no infection (eg Accra, Abidjan)….The Ivory Coast closed it’s borders and closed all air and sea links with affected countries.

It’s probably not going to hit Ireland Peter, the odds of it getting here are 5%. 80percent of the infections in Africa are a result of death rituals that are not practiced in the west, the other 20percent is the poor hospital set up and lack of proper containment protocols and finally the belief in conspiracy theories that WHO are spreading ebola or it’s not real, you have things like people breaking into quarantined hospitals and looting bloody sheets, no wonder it’s spreading so fast ffsake.

People need to stop listening to quacks and conspiracy theorists and start focusing on objective facts. It’s not airborne, it is hard to spread, and this outbreak has a lower fatality rate than previous ones, and were working on 4 separate vaccines.
People think but we can’t handle the Winter Vomiting Bus how could we handle this, the Norovirus is airborne and aerosolized, it can live on a flip-up bin top for hours and be whooshed into the air from a toilet flush then breathed in, Ebola does not work like that. Outside a human hosts body fluids it dies very quickly, it does not sit on surfaces or float in the air and while it’s theoretically possible to get it from saliva the concentration is not v high and your odds of surviving and inversly proportionate to how many virus particles you take in.

It’s quite simple, if you see sick Africans who are running a major fever and bleeding from the eyes, mouth or broken skin, call for help, short of that you have nothing to worry about.

What about the incubation period, when there are no symptoms, Ryan?

Someone infected with Ebola who is not showing symptoms is not contagious, the first symptoms are a burning fever (above 38.6′C), muscle pain, headaches and sore throat.
These are also the symptoms of many other conditions so the only way Ebola should be considered is if they have been in one of the hot zones (which now includes Spain and the US just to be on the safe side) within the last 21 days.

Ryan

15 year old refugee from liberia quarantined since monday in salzburg…his whole family died from it in liberia….that’s less than 2 hours drive from me.
If he made it over surely there are more in Europe but just not found yet…
God only knows if someone was to take a boat to Ireland and be sick with ebola….vomit in the bathrooms on the toilet for example…how do they trace anyone who has used the same toilets as this person. That person is hardly going to leave a note saying watch out I puked and have ebola.
Checking ports in Ireland is too late…they may have already had contact with Irish people en route and infected them.
Stats mean nothing….it only takes one case to prove them wrong. People need to be prepared and not take the attitude…it will never reach us we are ok.

Valdimir Putin Is certainly on the defensive in this day and age and his patients is very quickly running out with the West’s dirty lies, cheating and warmongering.

The West may criticize Putin on his prompt decision to annex Crimea, but if one digs a little deeper one can see a justification for this. NATO’s made a promise not to advance eastwards going back to the break up of the Berlin Wall, NATO has broken this promise and is now sh**ting on Russia’s doorstep. .

Russia is also wide awake to the fact that the West has been arming Jihad terrorists to the teeth right across the middle east in its effort to destabilize and overthrow governments. Libya, Iraq, and now Syria an Ally of Russia. We can already see the US and its allies futile attempt to attack these so terrorists who are also fighting the same cause (Joke in itself)

Barack Obama is pushing the limit too far and its only a matter of time before Russia will take so much.

If you like the east and detest the west so much Frank then why don’t to move there?

Ablitive
Not a chance in hell that a simple antiviral developed by the Russians for the treatment of influenza and simply a molecular twist on Relenza or Tamiflu is going to do anything against Ebola.
These drugs belong to a class known as neuraminidase inhibitors and are used in the treatment of both Influenza A and B.
I think you will find that this is a Russian boast that was influenced by that other favourite Russian drug called vodka!

David Ronan. What would be the point of moving to Iran or Russia if the Psychopaths in Western powers intend on bombing them to oblivion..

Richard Rodgers, Wait and see what the West comes up with, a damned if you do and damned if you don’t vaccine and may be a microchip implant to finish it off.

The Ebola Vaccine is here. Consult your doctor and get vaccinated today!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfwfMFBV34g

What’s ironic in all this is it was actually the Russians who had a real (not a conspiracy theory fantasy) bioweapons programme with BioPrePerat in the 60s-90s they made everything in weaponized form, Smallpox, Botulism, Anthrax the works.

Ryan Carroll .. The tables have turned 180°, its the West that are now playing about with biological weapons. Its all about population control for its rising empire.

George Orwell’s Animal Farm was written as a satire against the corrupt elite of Soviet communism.

The book could now be applied to the West.

No need to shut the African borders just stop all US bound flights from Western Africa, seems like common sense to me. What fox host said this might I ask or did you just pick it up second hand?

Megan Kelly . If you stop all US bound flights from west Africa you also stop doctors, trade missions and businessmen without whom the countries would not function.
If you only stop casual travel that’s only a tiny % of the problem anyway

Because he is the messiah of course. Given to us to heal the masses and part the rising sea…..I hope you sense the sarcasm in my tone.

Nobody’s in love with him, we just don’t believe in either reactionary right wing nutcases who are so far to the right that Obama looks like the radical left, or conspiracy theorists who think he is a cartoon villain.

By “reactionary” you mean someone who actually reacts, takes action? Sounds like exactly what we need now. The Middle East is in far worse condition now than it was the day Bush left office.

No I mean people so far off the fringe that Obama who is a centrist at best (by Europes standards he’s very conservative) looks like a raving lefty. The middle east is in this condition as a DIRECT result of decisions Geroge Bush made in 2003-2007 period, disbanding the Iraqi armed forces and dumping thousands of weapons trained p___D off men onto the streets, invading without a post-war plan and with less than half the troops the military told him they needed.
This is all on him and history will recognize that.

Obama might be a bad president but Bush will definitely take the prize as the worst president in US history, his deregulation (and Clintons) caused the biggest crash since the great depression, his foreign policy has destabilized the entire middle east, and he destroyed the bill of rights creating a big brother state that is now out of control