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Solicitor on Leaving Cert I took the long route for my education and I have no regrets

Cian Moriarty has some great advice for those mulling over their Leaving Cert results today.

AS THOUSANDS OF students receive their Leaving Certificate results this week, it’s important to remember there are always options for your future career. Trust me, I’ve experienced a few.

Before I left school, all I wanted to do was join the army cadets. I was totally against an office or desk-based job, and I believed wholeheartedly that I did not want to spend my working life in that type of environment.

I made it to the final interview stage with the army but unfortunately, a minor medical issue identified there, meant I could never join. I was devastated and for a long time I felt lost.

As this was happening, I was sitting my Leaving Cert. I’d completed a CAO application out of necessity and in the end I took up a place on the Arts Degree programme in UCC. Because I hadn’t thought about studying Arts before this, I just let my interests guide me and picked subjects that I was interested in rather than ones which had a clear career path. I completed a joint degree in philosophy and sociology and then completed a Masters in Sociology.

After college, I didn’t know what I wanted to do, but from the age of 16, I worked part-time as a chef so, I decided to pursue that next. I had no formal chef training but as I moved around between different kitchens and served more intricate food, I began to really enjoy it, visiting the English Market daily and reading cookbooks in my spare time.

Move towards law

I wasn’t always interested in the law, but during college, I wrote extensively on the topic of morality and the social dynamics which lead to changes in the law e.g. what were the social changes which lead to the decriminalisation of homosexuality.

These interests sparked a desire in me to learn more about how and why societies regulate themselves, and how those rules and structures operate and change. At the same time, I was also interested in topics like logic, argument and critical thinking. These are fundamental principles of being a lawyer and so, again, following my interests, this eventually led me to consider law as a career.

Perseverance is key

I think the most difficult thing about qualifying as a solicitor is the fear of failure around the process — at least that was the case when I was qualifying.

While you don’t need a law degree, or any degree, to become a solicitor, everyone must sit eight exams known as Final Entrance Exams (Fe1s) and complete a training contract and the educational training course at the Law Society.

The qualifying exams and getting a training contract can be hard, but both are achievable. It’s important to emphasise that becoming a solicitor is not some insurmountable undertaking if you are coming from an alternative background. At the start of my journey, someone who had gone through the process said that to me, and it really helped me persevere.

I found the solicitors training intimidating. I expected to find myself at sea amongst other trainees who, in my mind, must have all been brighter than me, all have done better than me in the Leaving Cert and who all have been planning to study law their entire lives. However, this perception was wrong. The legal community is extremely welcoming and supportive, and I was never made to feel less than my peers.

Different experiences

The critical thinking training I received throughout my Arts Degree and as a chef, doing things properly but efficiently and quickly have been helpful to my current career. Writing a standard solicitor’s letter, in the same way as if you are making good scrambled eggs, should be done properly, with care and attention to detail and always with an eye on whether it can be improved.

Having a non-law background means that I have a different training from all of my law-graduate colleagues, not better or worse, just different. The real benefit of a non-law background is that when you come together with your colleagues to discuss and solve problems, we are collectively bringing more experience, insights, and ideas to the table every time. That benefits everyone. I continue to be grateful that I had the opportunity to study something completely different and still build a career in law afterwards.

As a lawyer, you will make a difference, every single day that you go to work. You will help people when they need help the most. You will sit and speak in rooms where some of the most important decisions are made.

Whether or not you got your points today or you get your top CAO offers next week, don’t worry, there are many pathways to a successful career. Speaking from experience, if you are passionate enough about, are willing to do the work and meet the challenges required to qualify, it will be worth it every day after that.

Cian Moriarty is a partner on the employment team at Philip Lee. He qualified as a solicitor 10 years ago at the Law Society of Ireland. 

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    Aug 25th 2024, 8:25 AM

    I qualified as a chartered accountant through a different path also. I didn’t go straight from my leaving cert to college but first trained as a welder and then went back to college at night doing a cert in business.

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    Aug 25th 2024, 9:38 AM

    While articles like this are great for the authors ego, the idea that this is “great advice” is filled with survivorship bias. While there are certainly *some* people who do well in life without basic qualifications like a leaving cert, there are many, many more who do not fare as well. Will we have similar articles from those people, or should youngsters continue to be mollycoddled into thinking that results don’t matter?

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    Aug 25th 2024, 9:47 AM

    @Jason Memail: fully agree, if the leaving cert was not important, then every year it would not get the coverage that it does.
    Without a good college course behind you, your job opportunities are limited in pay, unless you know someone who may get you into a multinational manufacturing job. Then your pay and allowances might come close to a teacher/ nurse by doing unsociable hours

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    Aug 25th 2024, 10:25 AM

    @Jason Memail: Excellent analysis Jason, your term “survivorship bias” sums up perfectly so many articles such as this. I’m 38 studying a masters for a career change, 2 kids etc. The education “long way round” approach is steeped in difficulty and additional challenges.

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    Aug 26th 2024, 12:09 AM

    @jak: To be fair, having to deal with dregs like you is just another cross for them to bear

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    Aug 25th 2024, 9:45 AM

    Well written article and very interesting. Point of article is your 1st choice career need not be your career for life. Lots of choices in Ireland, you can work and study online or attend evening courses or go back to college at any age as mature student. When I was made redundant in my 50’s I did a logistics course through FAS where the majority of the participants were on their 2nd and 3rd choice careers and others were on their 1st choice. The interaction between the different age groups was also very interesting.

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    Aug 25th 2024, 9:57 AM

    @Nancy Gallagher: it does matter especially if earlier jobs had little benefits…
    I started out at 42 on new career that was pretty well paid with benefits . After a couple of years and through talking to colleagues that worked at the company for 15 plus years I realised that they had built up pension pots of 200k to 300k at my age , while I had only 10k at that stage.
    Now I am paying in maximum allowed avc into pension, which means my take home pay is OK but not great

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    Aug 25th 2024, 11:17 AM

    @hi from heaven: when I was made redundant I cashed in pension, following year others lost pension in “crash”. We worked hard from mid teens to late 60’s, then sold family home and downsized. You need to live life now as you may not be around to enjoy your pension pot.

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    Aug 25th 2024, 11:22 AM

    @hi from heaven: Sounds like you were working for FG.

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    Aug 25th 2024, 11:33 AM

    @Derek Poutch: thanks for your comment. Everyone is entitled to their opinion but not all opinions are interesting or intelligent enough to be forced on others. Because we worked hard from early teens to late 60’s and downsized in your opinion means we were working for FG, you really need to return to education to grasp an understanding of how to cope well in life. I wish you well when you reach your 60’s

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    Aug 25th 2024, 9:45 AM

    Fair play and kudos to those that can independently think and decide for themselves to find their own career paths and not get sidetracked and misled by following the popular trends and narratives of the day that are blasted at them as it appears so many seem to do these days

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    Aug 25th 2024, 9:50 AM

    Leaving cert is not important..the country still needs people to flip burgers in McDonald’s

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    Aug 25th 2024, 11:09 AM

    @hi from heaven: they are being imported

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    Aug 25th 2024, 11:32 AM

    @Furious George – The Wasp: They’re not. It’s Irish beef.

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    Aug 25th 2024, 8:57 AM

    I sat 3 leaving certs and became a scaffolding person ,if anyone needed access in a physical way I believed I could help them,And o still can ,

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    Aug 25th 2024, 11:20 AM

    @Ger Whelan: could be a health and safety officer.

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