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Valentine's Day Is true love possible in the age of algorithms?

Dr Fiona Murphy says technology is simply another way humans have tried to manipulate love. The question is, does it work?

THE BONES OF St Valentine rest in a casket in Whitefriar Street Church, Dublin, behind a wrought-iron gate.

People come here in search of love, of meaning, of intercession. They leave notes in the visitors’ book, small confessions scrawled in biro: ‘Dear St Valentine, please help me find my soulmate’.

They bring their engagement rings, touch the cold stone of the casket, and whisper to the saint’s remains as if love, like faith, could be conjured through petition. Some come for ritual, others out of irony. And yet, even the ironic ones linger.

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Love has always required belief. It is an act of faith to step toward another person, to trust, to desire. But what happens when that belief is no longer placed in flesh-and-blood encounters, but in algorithms, in predictive matching, in the coded logic of artificial intimacy? In the past, people waited for fate, or they wrote letters or left matters in the hands of saints. Now we swipe. We outsource the magic to machines.

Valentine’s algorithm?

Ireland has long had its own traditions of matchmaking and superstitions about love. The Lisdoonvarna Matchmaking Festival, still alive today, once provided a way for farmers and townspeople to meet potential spouses with the help of a matchmaker.

Love was a communal affair, guided by the wisdom of elders, rather than an impersonal app. Superstitions also shaped romantic futures — young women would place a sprig of yarrow under their pillow to dream of their future husband or crack an egg into a glass of water on Halloween to see the initials of their destined love.

These rituals, filled with belief and serendipity, have largely faded, replaced by the cold precision of algorithms promising an optimised match.

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It is said that relics possess a kind of power. The energy of the saint, lingering in bone. The same could be said, I suppose, for the digital remains of love — the archive of texts, the metadata of longing. Old chat histories stored in the cloud, selfies from the beginning of something, the eerie way a phone can conjure a name from the past, suggesting you reconnect. Love is never quite deleted, only layered over with updates.

Once, love’s arrival was a matter of circumstance and geography. You met someone at a dance, at church, through friends, on a train. Now, it is dictated by unseen architectures. Algorithms trained on our swipes and hesitations, calculating attraction as if it were a logic problem.

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Companion, the recent horror film, takes this premise to its extreme, imagining a world where an AI companion refuses to be left behind. A partner engineered to never leave, to never falter. An echo of every ghosted conversation, every haunting of the digital past.

The horror is not in the sentience of the machine, but in what it reflects back at us: that love, even in its absence, refuses to be erased. That every connection — whether severed, forgotten, or discarded — leaves an imprint. That we have, perhaps, designed our own hauntings.

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Artificial intimacy, as Esther Perel describes, shifts the terrain of relationships. We want connection but with control, and desire but without risk. David Levy once predicted that humans would marry robots by 2050, and that we would not only love them but depend on them for companionship, intimacy, even understanding. Already, long-distance sex toys and remote kissing machines attempt to bridge the physical gap, offering new ways to touch without presence, to sustain connection across continents. But what happens when the simulation starts to feel more reliable than the real thing?

What it means to love

The late Helen Fisher, a biological anthropologist at the Kinsey Institute, spent decades studying love’s biological roots. She argued that romantic love is not just an emotion but a survival mechanism — rooted in the brain’s dopamine-driven reward system, as fundamental as hunger or thirst.

Love, she said, is work. Not just the pursuit, but the maintenance, the tending. We are wired for attachment, yet we also seek novelty, an uneasy tension that technology now both exacerbates and attempts to soothe. Apps offer endless novelty; algorithms try to predict our perfect match. But what does it mean to be “perfectly matched” if love itself is dynamic, demanding, and full of contradiction?

On Valentine’s Day, these contradictions flare up like old wounds. Some revel in the romance, the flowers, the dinner reservations. Others resist, rolling their eyes at the performative spectacle of it all. For some, it is a day of longing, a reminder of love’s absence, its failures. For others, it is the ultimate commodification of love, a capitalist illusion that sells affection in neat, marketable packages — roses, chocolates, heart-shaped jewellery.

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It turns desire into transaction, intimacy into expectation. What does it mean to love on command, to mark affection on a dictated day? And yet, at its core, Valentine’s Day is also an invocation of love as magic. The belief that it can be summoned, conjured, gifted.

Love potions, enchanted tokens, whispered spells — across cultures and histories, we have always tried to bend love to our will. Technology, in its way, is just another attempt at the same trick.

And love itself is shifting. Heteronormativity no longer reigns as the assumed default. More people are embracing polyamory, relationship anarchy, and the rejection of fixed models. Love is no longer a single path leading to marriage and monogamy, but a vast network of possibilities — some fluid, some structured, and some entirely outside conventional categories. The idea that one person must fulfil all needs, and all roles, is eroding. Some find liberation in this, others disorientation.

The algorithmic logic of dating apps often fails to keep up, still sorting us into categories it barely understands.

In the digital age, intimacy is becoming scarce. We are offered substitutes — chatbots engineered to soothe, AI lovers tailored to our precise specifications. Affective computing and generative AI allow machines to respond with empathy, or at least the appearance of it. Virtual intimacy promises connection, alleviates loneliness, and fills the gaps left by human inconsistency.

But what is lost?

The hesitation before a first kiss, the ungovernable mystery of another person, the space for misunderstanding, for doubt, for discovery. If intimacy is reduced to an algorithmic exchange — each response calculated, each longing met with a programmed echo — what remains of the wild, unpredictable force we once called love? That magic, that every love song, book and movie has forever tried to capture?

In the Whitefriar Street church, the flickering votives make shadows against the walls. Someone kneels, head bowed. Others hover, uncertain of what to do.

Outside, love carries on in its contemporary forms. A couple on a Tinder date, tense with first-meeting awkwardness. A woman texting an ex she swore she wouldn’t. A man scrolling through a dating app, wondering if the next match might be the one and afraid to click on the latest person in case a ‘better one’ comes up next. The rituals persist, only their mechanics have changed.

The tyranny of choice

Technology promised to make love easier. More options, less risk. But choice has a way of curdling into exhaustion. The endless scroll of potential partners, the swiping, the ghosting, the gamification of attraction — what at first feels like abundance quickly turns into an abyss.

When love is mediated through a screen, when intimacy is flattened into an interface, what do we lose? Is it the weight of someone’s breath beside us, the inarticulable alchemy of a real presence? Or is it something subtler — the surrender, the serendipity, the belief in mystery?

Perhaps this is why people still come to the bones of St Valentine. Not because they believe a saint will conjure love for them, but because they long for something beyond the screen. A place where love is not an algorithm, but a prayer. A hope written down, left behind, waiting to be read.

Dr Fiona Murphy is an anthropologist based in the School of Applied Language & Intercultural Studies at Dublin City University.  

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    Jul 26th 2019, 10:36 AM

    Tailored shorts should be no issue in the workplace.

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    Jul 26th 2019, 10:46 AM

    @Peter Cavey:
    As Monty Python sang: “I’m a lumberjack…..”

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    Jul 26th 2019, 10:47 AM

    @Peter Cavey: oooowww, taaailored shorts!

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    Jul 26th 2019, 1:39 PM

    @Peter Cavey: yes, fine if you’re working from home.

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    Jul 26th 2019, 10:40 AM

    Bizarre in 2019 that so many are still in favour of forcing people to wear certain kinds of clothing despite knowing it’s making them uncomfortable.

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    Jul 26th 2019, 10:58 AM

    @Rochelle: Shorts fine outdoors, not indoor working. If it’s uncomfortable, change job.

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    Jul 26th 2019, 11:14 AM

    @Niall O’Neill: Why on earth do you even care?

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    Jul 26th 2019, 12:41 PM

    @Rochelle: Can I go to work in a mankini? What’s comfortable for me may not be comfortable for those around me.

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    Jul 26th 2019, 12:45 PM

    @Conall: If shorts on someone else makes you uncomfortable though, yer a bit sensitive.

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    Jul 26th 2019, 1:11 PM

    @Conall: it’s shorts we’re talking about…. SHORTS

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    Jul 26th 2019, 1:26 PM

    @Conall: Do you really think a man wearing shorts is some kind of radical statement? This is hilarious!

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    Jul 26th 2019, 1:29 PM

    @Niall O’Neill: can I wear a skirt or dress instead?

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    Jul 26th 2019, 1:37 PM

    @Shawn O’Ceallaghan: depends on what your legs look like and if you’re wearing flats or heels.

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    Jul 26th 2019, 4:13 PM

    @Niall O’Neill: if your that sensitive maybe you should change jobs

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    Jul 26th 2019, 8:36 PM

    @Niall O’Neill: Lol! So Irish, still horrified by the world without constant rain.

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    Jul 27th 2019, 12:11 AM

    @Niall O’Neill: ah cmon a pair of shorts is no harm at alll

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    Jul 26th 2019, 10:36 AM

    If you cant wear it into a meeting then don’t wear it to work. Can you imagine you go in and all of a sudden a top boss calls you into a board meeting to give your view on something. Here you are looking like you heading to the beach in Barcelona.

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    Jul 26th 2019, 10:45 AM

    @Arya: What? How does this look like you’re going to the beach https://pin.it/7pwrac4zg37u25

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    Jul 26th 2019, 10:56 AM

    @Arya: in my experience, men in expensive suits are no more likely to display intelligence than those in shorts. Take Richard Branson for example. It’s the content of the message that counts not the package that delivers it. That said, I do accept that there is a certain expectation regarding dress code but maybe it’s time to move forward?

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    Jul 26th 2019, 11:14 AM

    @Paul Shepherd: Branson’s a ballix

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    Jul 26th 2019, 11:30 AM

    @Ryan: Board shorts for the board room. Perfectly cromulent attire.

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    Jul 26th 2019, 11:32 AM

    @Ryan: Correction Branson’s a rich ballix.

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    Jul 26th 2019, 11:46 AM

    @Arya: WTF has that got to do with your ability to do the job ???? All this best foot forward stiff upper lip BS. As long as they look respectable it stupid to make them an issue

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    Jul 26th 2019, 11:51 AM

    @Arya: have you seen the way some td’s dress. Someone in smart shorts would look alot better.

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    Jul 26th 2019, 11:55 AM

    @Paul Shepherd: I’ve found the opposite. I found men in suits are not as intelligent as the guy in shorts in a heatwave.

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    Jul 26th 2019, 3:55 PM

    @Ian Breathnach: they look like two saps, so that’s a NO, for work.

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    Jul 26th 2019, 10:37 AM

    it’s acceptable for women to have bare legs when wearing skirts, why not men?
    As long as they aren’t hot pants

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    Jul 26th 2019, 10:49 AM

    @Michael Byrne: nobody wants a bit of ball scrag popping out to say hello when Barry is giving his forecasts for the year ahead.

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    Jul 26th 2019, 10:50 AM

    @Bruce Van der Gutschmitzer: Barry is in a mankini.

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    Jul 26th 2019, 11:06 AM

    @Michael Byrne: who loves short shorts? I love short shorts?

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    Jul 26th 2019, 12:05 PM

    @Leadóg: no hiding there

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    Jul 26th 2019, 10:38 AM

    Shorts – are they suitable for work? Do you for mean men and women? If yes then how could shorts be unsuitable if skirts are? I have a half memory of men in some job abroad starting to wear skirts because they were allowed in the uniform code and shorts were not. Then there the issue of short skirts and short shorts but that’s for another day.

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    Jul 26th 2019, 11:17 AM

    @Phil O’ Meara: Train drivers and conductors in Stockholm. I teach in Stockholm, and had that “strike” in mind when I was told I couldn’t wear shorts and it was 32 degrees. I told them I’d come in the next hot day in a dress. They weren’t willing to risk it, and they were right not to.

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    Jul 26th 2019, 10:50 AM

    The whole shorts/skirt debate I get but I guess historically, women weren’t allowed wear trousers to work at one point and had to wear a skirt, so it’s perceived as “dressy”.

    Generally, if a woman is wearing a skirt to work, she has it dressed up with a top or blouse and a pair of shoes. She isn’t going to be wearing a tshirt or football jersey and runners, which is kind of what you imagine when you think of shorts on men. So if they want to wear shorts, they’d have to wear sensible suit style shorts and shoes in the same way a woman dresses up a skirt.

    Personally, I want to wear neither, quite happy in my jeans

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    Jul 26th 2019, 11:02 AM

    @JC: how historical do you want to go back? Women have been wearing trousers in work for over half a century. Further back men were high heels. Time has moved on

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    Jul 26th 2019, 11:06 AM

    @Craic_a_tower: I never said I agreed, I said that is probably where the perception came from. At no point were shorts something men would traditionally wear to work. Traditionally shorts were what little boys wore until they grew up and could get into long trousers

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    Jul 26th 2019, 11:54 AM

    @JC: Jeans are not work attire either unless you work on a building site.. Maybe okay on casual day but that’s about it.

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    Jul 26th 2019, 12:07 PM

    @Gerry O’Sullivan: I’m currently in an office in my jeans. And I’m in the financial software industry.
    Sure I’ll wear a suit / business outfit if I’m meeting a client but normally it’s denims, boots and a tee shirt with a movie quote.

    Would ya ever feck off with your building site nonsense.

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    Jul 26th 2019, 12:50 PM

    @Gerry O’Sullivan: I work in IT – I’m not going to ask my staff to come in suited and booted to crawl under peoples manky desks to replace cables and whatnot.

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    Jul 26th 2019, 1:43 PM

    @JC: 25 years ago I was working in the USA in an office and wore shorts. I was by no means the exception and it was a very large international company. As for wearing jeans pretty much every company I have worked for has no issue. The one place that had a strict dress code was the most lowly skilled office job that had no dealings with the public. What was worse was the men’s dress policy was 4 times larger. Ridiculous stuff like no print pattern ties.

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    Jul 26th 2019, 2:07 PM

    @Craic_a_tower: again “traditionally”. Great that you could wear shorts in the USA but there are a lot of company’s who are very stuffy about their dress policy so don’t think that would be the norm in Ireland.

    Personally, unless its a public customer facing role, I couldn’t give a f*ck what someone was wearing. Someone wearing a suit & tie isn’t going to do more work than someone in jeans and a tshirt. In fact, if the latter is more comfortable to someone, that would probably result in better work output.

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    Jul 26th 2019, 11:09 AM

    I’m currently wearing shorts in work so I hope so!

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    Jul 26th 2019, 11:37 AM

    @Dave Byrne: Are you a lifeguard by any chance,ok, two more guesses…..are you a boxer,no, ok , do you work for a shorts company…..I give up, no, do you own the company….any vacancies in this weather.

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    Jul 26th 2019, 11:40 AM

    @Dave Byrne: I hope you’re not on the phone in goal…

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    Jul 26th 2019, 3:04 PM

    @Honeybee: He’s a center forward for Liverpool so it’s ok.

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    Jul 26th 2019, 10:44 AM

    Of course they’re suitable.

    If woman can wear skirts (and I suspect no one would bat an eyelid at tailored capris / shorts) than i can’t imagine anyone complaining about men wearing tailored shorts would have a leg to stand on ;)

    But then I’d have zero issue if they chose to wear a skirt either. Or a kilt. As long as it’s respectable (of that’s the office you have) wear whatever you damn well please.

    All that being said, the minute you move into Client facing situations you might wanna revisit that :)

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    Jul 26th 2019, 12:11 PM

    @Tricia G: Everybody seems to be equating men wearing shorts with women wearing skirts, but is that really equivalent? Would women wearing shorts be equivalent to wearing skirts? I’m not so sure.

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    Jul 26th 2019, 12:14 PM

    @Squiddley Diddley: That’s why I specifically mentioned ” tailored capris / shorts”.

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    Jul 26th 2019, 12:23 PM

    @Tricia G: Ok sorry. Personally I don’t care what people wear, I spend a lot of time in building sites where lumberjack shirts often talk more sense than suits and ties. Speaking of which I think men should abandon ties in warm weather.

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    Jul 26th 2019, 12:26 PM

    @Squiddley Diddley: Ties make very little sense to me. They’re mainly decoration, a follow on from a previous age. Although they are more aesthetically pleasing than just a buttoned up shirt……

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    Jul 26th 2019, 5:19 PM

    @Squiddley Diddley: ok let’s equate it men wearing sarongs then instead.
    That evens it out.
    Equality works both ways, weird and all as it may sound.

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    Jul 26th 2019, 10:36 AM

    Women can wear skirts. So if you think that men can’t wear shorts, you’re an evil sexist monster!

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    Jul 26th 2019, 10:39 AM

    @Greg Ward: men can wear skirts / bring our your inner Beckham

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    Jul 26th 2019, 11:45 AM

    @Greg Ward: Would it be strange to see a woman at work in shorts? Just asking, don’t Have any opinion either way…

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    Jul 26th 2019, 12:13 PM

    @Squiddley Diddley: Depends on the shorts. Capri shorts, no, short shorts, yeah, that would be a tad weird.

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    Jul 26th 2019, 11:33 AM

    I think it’s acceptable to wear shorts in a job where you don’t have to interact with people outside of your office colleagues. In a job where you have to meet clients and business partners, then obviously first impression is important and you should present yourself in a respectable manner.

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    Jul 26th 2019, 12:02 PM

    @will: Is dressing in a way that makes you sweaty, irritated and unable to focus being “respectful” to the customer?
    Some people are far too hung up on the deception of professionalism rather than acting in a professional way.

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    Jul 26th 2019, 11:00 AM

    I’m in UK at moment. So many guys in shorts, truly horrific mostly, great nobly knees, and it don’t stop at shorts, then its flip flops. A whole other issue.

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    Jul 26th 2019, 11:01 AM

    @David J Warren:
    Knobbly sorry

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    Jul 26th 2019, 11:41 AM

    @David J Warren: No noble knees?

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    Jul 26th 2019, 11:32 AM

    I am surprised Leo has not invited the government and TDs to attend work wearing shorts … would be remarkable photo opps too

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    Jul 26th 2019, 12:04 PM

    The picture you’ve used to illustrate the article appears to be a gentleman working in a pair of pink boxers. He is unsurprisingly working alone.

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    Jul 26th 2019, 3:10 PM

    The only strange thing I noticed was that he apparently has to wear a long-sleeved shirt with it. Maybe for video-conferencing? Personally I can’t stand pink, but each to their own. I have no issues with shorts. It’s hot enough out. Most of us commute. The more comfortably we can dress, the better.

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    Mute WoodlandBard
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    Jul 26th 2019, 11:28 AM

    For many men, wearing shorts would certainly kill of the risk of dating fellow employees … so that may be a good thing

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    Mute Davei
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    Jul 26th 2019, 11:31 AM

    Depends how much ya packing

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    Mute Michael Kavanagh
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    Jul 26th 2019, 11:41 AM

    @Davei:
    That can be …….. augmented!

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    Mute Sinead Whelan
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    Jul 26th 2019, 1:49 PM

    My lot are lucky I’ve any clothes on at all today!

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    Mute Adam Conroy
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    Jul 26th 2019, 1:31 PM

    Depends on the job I suppose. In general though many places have a professional dress code and you just have to follow it.

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    Mute Siobhan Breen Malone
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    Jul 26th 2019, 1:22 PM

    Depends on the shorts. If all the guys started turning up in my place wearing short shorts, I’m ringing in sick! And yes I’d have the same reaction if the women start doing it too!

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    Mute Patrick FitzGerald
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    Jul 26th 2019, 1:42 PM

    It should be acceptable to wear anything. What one wears has no bearing whatsoever on how one performs.

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    Mute Mark Hannan
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    Jul 26th 2019, 1:05 PM

    Totally against this, don’t see why I should have to cover up and wear shorts.

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    Mute Mike Conway
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    Jul 26th 2019, 1:41 PM

    Shorts and open-toe shoes are completely unacceptable in a work environment in my opinion.

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    Mute Paul Watchorn
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    Jul 26th 2019, 10:57 AM

    Short answer?- …

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    Mute Denis McClean
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    Jul 26th 2019, 12:33 PM

    Has no-one been to the Middle East and beyond, where long, light and loose clothes are traditional for men and women alike. Not just to dissipate heat and sweat but also as protection from the sun. Shorts might be a bit too casual for many businesses but those should have airconditioning. For others, they might be ok provided they’re not too short or painted on.

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    Mute Paraic
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    Jul 26th 2019, 2:26 PM

    This poll discriminates against everyone who’s not a soft handed office worker.

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    Mute Lúcás Ó Shneachta
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    Jul 26th 2019, 12:28 PM

    Tis more acceptable to change your gender than your pant attire

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    Mute Nina Wallenius
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    Jul 26th 2019, 2:08 PM

    Depends on your work. In office work, depends if you are front- or back office, if you have external visitors/seminars etc. In my view shorts are basically ok in everyday work. But dont greet a foreign delegation or pitch your gig in shorts.

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    Mute Steve McCarthy
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    Jul 26th 2019, 1:56 PM

    Little difference between tailored shorts and a skirt above the knee. A dress policy doesn’t constitute professionalism, collective progressive attitude and culture do. Shorts are common practice across the world in warmer countries and, where safety and health (common sense) permit, I personally don’t have an issue.

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    Mute Jonathan Nolan
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    Jul 27th 2019, 3:15 AM

    As an Irishman who’s lived in Australia for 20 years, this is hilarious.
    We are not allowed to wear shorts to work until temps are over 35C.
    20C and you want to wear shorts to work??!!!
    I’ve obviously acclimatised. I’m in a wooly jumper in 20C lol

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    Mute John Paul
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    Jul 26th 2019, 4:12 PM

    He’ll yeah . Try work outdoors all day in that heat in long trousers. Not nice

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    Mute Fergus
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    Jul 26th 2019, 2:49 PM

    You would need to be a lunatic to think shorts are inappropriate. Ability to do job is most important. Weird puritan dress codes have no basis in current society apart from PPE.

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    Mute Karen Delaney
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    Jul 26th 2019, 1:23 PM

    I think a plain coloured short that came to the knee should be allowed. Wouldn’t think the pink ones in the photo would be appropriate.

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    Mute Jonathan Baum
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    Jul 26th 2019, 6:48 PM

    Would you ever get over yourselves? It’s 18 degrees out there and you’re talking about wearing shorts at work??

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    Mute Shem
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    Jul 26th 2019, 12:38 PM

    No problem women wearing sleeveless outfits. why men can wear smart casual shorts??

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    Mute Life is short enjoy it
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    Jul 26th 2019, 2:06 PM

    If people can were their cultural / religious clothing. Shorts are part of ours normal worn when hot. There was never a reason not to. Just like those whom wear cultural / religious clothing. There should not be a problem at all.

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    Mute Tim McCormack29
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    Jul 26th 2019, 2:02 PM

    Not acceptable for men, acceptable for some wowen.

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    Mute Daragh Harmon
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    Jul 26th 2019, 3:24 PM

    Sure if its ok for men to wear skirts why wouldn’t it be ok to wear shorts

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    Mute Seeking Truth
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    Jul 26th 2019, 5:05 PM

    My first answer is no way. But for the first time ever, the comments here have caused me to stop and think. If women can wear skirts, why can’t guys wear shorts?
    I think it would be up to the “experts” in fashion and design to come up with an appropriate look of men’s shorts that would work in a corporate setting. What socks and shoes would they wear with it? What kind of shirt? Would it look professional? Maybe this will actually become a thing but at the moment I don’t know of any style of men’s shorts that would really work.

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    Mute Marty
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    Jul 27th 2019, 7:22 AM

    I work in construction and its not allow from a safety stand point

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    Mute Brían Ó Cionnaith
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    Jul 26th 2019, 11:40 PM

    Short trousers for this warm weather YES

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    Mute Tommy Roche
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    Jul 26th 2019, 3:27 PM

    Just wear a skirt and identify as female for the day.

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    Mute Stealth
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    Jul 26th 2019, 7:53 PM

    If women can have skirts and dresses then men can have shorts.
    Iv worn a dress when I was told shorts weren’t allowed. My boss changed his mind after 2 hours

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    Mute Damien James Murray
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    Jul 26th 2019, 7:53 PM

    If women can have skirts and dresses then men can have shorts.
    Iv worn a dress when I was told shorts weren’t allowed. My boss changed his mind after 2 hours

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    Mute Rob Cahill
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    Jul 26th 2019, 3:03 PM

    Normal shorts about knee length yes.. Them 3/4 length girly ones with the the no socks malarky no.

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    Mute Emilian Patrascu
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    Jul 26th 2019, 10:36 PM

    How about everyone goes naked? Problem solved.

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    Mute Lucás Ó Sneachta
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    Jul 26th 2019, 12:28 PM

    Tis more acceptable to change your gender than your pant attire

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    Mute Karllye kripton
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    Jul 26th 2019, 3:35 PM

    37% at the time o read this are just bitter C***s

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    Mute Damien James Murray
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    Jul 26th 2019, 7:52 PM

    If women can have skirts and dresses then men can have shorts.
    Iv worn a dress when I was told shorts weren’t allowed. My boss changed his mind after 2 hours

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    Mute Pl Ster
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    Jul 26th 2019, 12:58 PM

    119 = 4% 96=5%
    Something wrong here lads

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    Mute Kian David Griffin
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    Jul 26th 2019, 9:44 PM

    Shorts fine. Flip flops feck off

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    Mute Damien James Murray
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    Jul 26th 2019, 7:52 PM

    If women can have skirts and dresses then men can have shorts.
    Iv worn a dress when I was told shorts weren’t allowed. My boss changed his mind after 2 hours

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