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Referendums confirmed on Oireachtas inquiries and judges' pay

Minister Phil Hogan has suggested that unemployed people could be given jobs at polling stations during the ballots.

MINISTER PHIL HOGAN has today officially signed off on two upcoming constitutional referendums – one to give extra powers to Oireachtas inquiries, and the other to cut judges’ pay.

As expected, the Minister for the Environment, Community and Local Government made an order setting October 27 – the date of the presidential election – as polling day on the two proposals.

The proposed measure to cut judges’ pay – officially known as the Twenty-Ninth Amendment of the Constitution (Judges’ Remuneration) Bill 2011 – will see judicial salaries made subject to the same cuts as other public sector workers. At present, the government has no power to reduce judges’ pay, although most judges have already taken a voluntary cut.

Justice minister Alan Shatter has said the measure will save €5.5million a year.

The second proposal involves measures increasing the powers of the Oireachtas to conduct inquiries into “matters which relate to the common good”. It has been suggested that the new powers could help investigations into the banking crisis.

Speaking today, Minister Hogan also said that returning officers – who must organise staff at polling stations across the country – should try and help Ireland’s jobless by employing them for the day and during counts.

He said: “While the efficient conduct of polls and the count is clearly dependent on having sufficiently skilled and experienced people, I would ask all local returning officers to make a special effort to employ suitable persons who are unemployed.”

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    Mute Fintan Stack
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    Jan 5th 2023, 9:08 PM

    A lot of ifs used on this article, so I’ll add 2 more, if the largest nations don’t start doing their part and they rely on Ireland to save our planet then we’re certainly in trouble.

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    Mute Fintan Stack
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    Jan 5th 2023, 9:11 PM

    @Fintan Stack: and one more, if you think more taxes will save the glaciers then there’s something seriously wrong!

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    Mute SPQH
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    Jan 6th 2023, 12:09 AM

    @Fintan Stack: they’re relying on the average Joe and Josephine to pick up the tab, unfortunately their real money needs to be spent. All that robber baron money needs to take a pill and recognise why we’re in pollution to begin with….. Utilisation of the industrial use of plastics corporate responsibility has to play a larger part, yrs civilians and govt too but corporatations doing very little.

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    Mute Gavin Power
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    Jan 5th 2023, 9:39 PM

    What about the times when there was no Glaciers, and also no ice at the poles, ie when the Earth was hotter twice before with no fossils being burnt by man, there wasnt always ice at the poles,and Glaciers wernt always here

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    Mute Urban Living Dublin
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    Jan 5th 2023, 10:15 PM

    @Gavin Power: Those changes happened over millennia, similar changes happen in less than 100 years. We and the ecosystem we’re part of simply cannot adapt at this rate.

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    Mute Urban Living Dublin
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    Jan 5th 2023, 10:15 PM

    @Urban Living Dublin: *similar changes happen in less than 100 years at the moment.

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    Jan 6th 2023, 1:04 AM

    @Gavin Power: there wasn’t, but it was caused by the same thing, a build up of CO2. Although it was much much slower. The problem isn’t thats it happening, but the rate its happening at.

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    Mute UserMcUserFace
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    Jan 6th 2023, 11:00 AM

    @Gavin Power: Humans have never existed in any era of geological time that there hasn’t been ice at the poles. Only with ice did we evolve fully into species that now resemble monkeys and eventually humans.

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    Jan 6th 2023, 4:51 PM

    @Gavin Power: Wet bulb temperatures. Effects of.

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    Mute Andy O'B
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    Jan 5th 2023, 8:10 PM

    Sure 99% of the people reading the journal today will be dead by then, so don’t worry about it…

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    Mute Maximus_Demonus
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    Jan 5th 2023, 8:16 PM

    @Andy O’B: You do have a point, not a great one, but a point. Imagine if our ancestors just gave up and let humanity die off? Humans are a long way from being perfect but we may be the only sentient beings in this universe. That’s something worth protecting at least.

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    Mute Ciaran
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    Jan 5th 2023, 8:40 PM

    @Maximus_Demonus: yes but not letting the population die off is pleasurable for most – so I doubt it was a tough task ..

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    Mute Urban Living Dublin
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    Jan 5th 2023, 10:11 PM

    @Andy O’B: Your kids won’t be, so all the best to them. Would be nice to pass down a little more than environmental destruction no?

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    Jan 5th 2023, 11:58 PM

    @Maximus_Demonus: I agree, I think he does have a point, a sort of indirect one, the apathy of people the more and more they hear the same thing but don’t have the power to change. What is the ffing point of our small time recycle bins when you’ve massive govt and corporate pollution ongoing, people are sick of being the scapegoat. Yes we’d love to be the environmentally friendly icon but unfortunately you just have to look at what your bread and vegan tofu are wrapped in to know we’re not winning and individual consumers are not going to win the battle, corporation globe, pick up the tab please, the average Joe and Josephine needs help

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    Jan 6th 2023, 7:27 AM

    @Urban Living Dublin: Ah shur they’ll be able to google what the earth used to be like on their smart devices as they sit in a coffee shop chain sipping on coffee imported from around the world as they look cool in their throw away fashion.
    Whatever people’s beliefs are about climate change rest assured that there is no stopping it and all climate taxes do is create more poverty.

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    Mute Brian Corr
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    Jan 5th 2023, 8:17 PM

    I’ll be gone and so will my daughter and girlfriend so won’t affect us in any way….by then half the world will be gone to due to governments and war.

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    Jan 5th 2023, 8:22 PM

    @Brian Corr: How will governments and war get rid of half the world in the next 100 years? The same 2 factors have seen the population rise from 1.5 billion to 8 billion over the last 100 years.

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    Mute Kevin Collins
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    Jan 5th 2023, 9:08 PM

    @Dan Broderick: “could”.

    But won’t.

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    Jan 5th 2023, 9:55 PM

    @Dan Broderick: moron

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    Jan 5th 2023, 10:02 PM

    @Dan Broderick: Ha, ha.

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    Jan 6th 2023, 4:15 AM

    @Dan Broderick: How’s that new tinfoil hat you got for Christmas? Does it fit OK?

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    Mute Roger Bond
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    Jan 5th 2023, 10:28 PM

    With 80% of the glaciers melted by 2100,
    there will be a 6 inch rise in sea level.
    That’s not much of a rise..
    Looks like nothing to worry about..

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    Mute David Jordan
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    Jan 6th 2023, 11:06 AM

    @Roger Bond: Melting glaciers are only part of the reason for sea level rise. There’s also melting Arctic ice caps, as well as the thermal expansion of the oceans.

    If we don’t do anything to reduce emissions, 106 climate experts polled on the subject, think sea level will rise between 2 and 4 feet by 2100.

    If we reduce emissions, and keep warming under 1.5 Celsius, the optimistic scenario, the 106 experts polled think sea level rise will be kept between 1 and 2 feet by 2100.

    So 12 inches of sea level rise is a highly optimistic prediction.

    Horton, B.P., Khan, N.S., Cahill, N., Lee, J.S., Shaw, T.A., Garner, A.J., Kemp, A.C., Engelhart, S.E. and Rahmstorf, S., 2020. Estimating global mean sea-level rise and its uncertainties by 2100 and 2300 from an expert survey. NPJ climate and atmospheric science, 3(1), pp.1-8.:

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    Mute SPQH
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    Jan 6th 2023, 12:09 AM

    Corporates pull your weight, stop guilt tripping the public.

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    Mute Data Backup
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    Jan 5th 2023, 9:33 PM

    So our Grand children will be about 50 if you are 38 now with a 8 year old.
    Scarey legacy to leave.

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    Jan 5th 2023, 10:08 PM

    @Data Backup: you ok and not crazy?

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    Mute Damien Leahy
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    Jan 5th 2023, 10:36 PM

    @Data Backup: no our grandchildren will be told the same bs but it will be 2200

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    Jan 5th 2023, 8:44 PM

    This climate change is inevitable, we only can do is slow it down and buying more time for mankind. the most important is how we adapt and evolve, in the future human May live and breathe under the water or move to other planets… tech is the key. Don’t be afraid of the tech, it depends how to use it, eg nuclear bomb and nuclear power plant

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    Jan 6th 2023, 12:46 AM

    @Ní neart go cur le chéile.: why inevitable?

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    Jan 6th 2023, 7:46 AM

    @Ní neart go cur le chéile.: What planet would we move to exactly?

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    Jan 6th 2023, 10:17 AM

    @Shaner Mac: Uranus.

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    Jan 6th 2023, 8:30 AM

    Should have postponed the building of the titanic

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    Jan 5th 2023, 10:58 PM

    I’d feel for the rats in 2100 so because there won’t be too many humans left my then

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