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Counting in the Seanad election will begin today. Laura Hutton/Photocall Ireland

Counting in Seanad election to begin today - but access to count venue will be restricted

This has been an election like none other for candidates hoping for a seat in the upper house.

COUNTING IN THE Seanad general election will begin today despite the Covid-19 public health emergency.

Postal voting in the election closes today at 11am for the 43 seats on the five vocational panels and tomorrow at 11am for the six seats on the university panels. 

There are 118 candidates seeking election to the vocational panels. 

Many going for the seats are former senators and politicians who lost Dáil seats in the general election, but there are some newcomers in the mix too.

This has been an election like none other, as candidates’ election campaigns have been put on hold throughout the Covid-19 outbreak due to social distancing and isolation measures.

Last week, a number of candidates appealed to voters to send in their postal ballots – expressing concern at the low turnout. 

Votes from the 43 vocational panel seats will be counted at the Printworks Centre in Dublin Castle this year.

The count will be restricted to those who are entitled by law to be there and other appropriate safety measures will be in place at the Printworks venue in order to mitigate risk.

Counting of the votes begins this morning and is expected to continue until Friday 3 April. 

Following February’s general election, government formation has been side-tracked due to the public health emergency.

Until this week, government formation talks have made little progress. Fianna Fáil and Fine Gael ruled out doing business with Sinn Féin, while post the February election Fine Gael said it was readying itself for the opposition. 

While there have been calls for a national government to be formed by the Green party and also Sinn Féin, the crisis has pushed Fianna Fáil and Fine Gael into one another’s arms. 

Tánaiste Simon Coveney said the country needs a government that is strong and stable, stating that one can be formed relatively quickly. 

Coveney said it is possible to get a government formed quickly. He said Fine Gael and Fianna Fáil are putting in place a process he hopes will encourage other parties to join them.

While there does seem to be some movement, the Upper House might actually force the hand of parties to agree a programme for government. 

There are 60 seats in the Seanad up for grabs, but 11 of these are nominated by the Taoiseach.

An outgoing Taoiseach – Leo Varadkar in this instance – is not allowed to nominate new members. 

Only a newly-elected Taoiseach, who has been elected by the Dáil after a general election, has the power to appoint 11 nominees.

Even if parties decided that they would divvy up the seats, it is understood they would not be allowed.

The Ceann Comhairle of the Dáil, Sean O’Fhearghail, said legal advice he received said that the Seanad could not pass legislation until the 11 nominees are appointed.

However, the Labour Party claims a change in Seanad regulations would allow a newly elected Seanad to sit without the appointments being made.

Labour senator Ivana Bacik made the case on Friday, claiming that a change in Seanad regulations would allow a newly elected Upper House to sit without the Taoiseach’s 11 nominees.

However, the Cathaoirleach of the Seanad Denis O’Donovan said the matter was something the government would have to deal with.

Before a new Seanad is formed, let’s look at what the Seanad is and does. 

The Seanad is the upper house of the Oireachtas and forms one third of the Irish legislature. The Dáil, the lower house, and the President make up the other two-thirds.

The Seanad is not directly elected by the people, but contains a mixture of members elected through various methods. To run for the Seanad, an Irish citizen must be over 21.

It is not as powerful as the Dáil and can only delay laws with which it disagrees by a total of 90 days. It cannot stop them. It has no powers to delay a budget, but it can initiate legislation.

Here’s a quick look at how legislation becomes law, to properly explain the extra scrutiny the Seanad provides.

It’s made up of 60 members. As stated above, 11 of them are nominated by the Taoiseach of the day, six are elected by graduates of Trinity College Dublin and the National Universities of Ireland and 43 are elected from five special panels of nominees, known as vocational panels, by a small electorate of politicians.

The five panels are made up of candidates who are said to have knowledge and experience of the following areas:

  • Cultural and Educational Panel (5 seats)- national language and culture, literature, art, education, law and medicine.
  • Agricultural Panel (11 seats) – agricultural and allied interests and fisheries;
  • Labour Panel (11 seats) – labour, whether organised or unorganised;
  • Industrial and Commercial Panel (9 seats) - industry and commerce, including banking, finance, accountancy, engineering and architecture;
  • Administrative Panel (7 seats) – public administration and social services, including voluntary social activities.

The electorate is tiny. It consists of members of the incoming Dáil, the outgoing Seanad and city and county councillors.

That’s a total electorate of about 1,169. 

The function of the upper house is provide another layer of democracy; essentially it’s to keep the Dáil in check.

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    Mute GoodBrother
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    Jul 28th 2023, 1:26 PM

    Just got the highest electricity bill since the start of the inflation, though usage lower than year before.

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    Mute Trent
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    Jul 28th 2023, 1:35 PM

    @GoodBrother: Haven’t used any Gas since February yet the standing charge may aswell say i was …disgraceful

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    Mute David Corrigan
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    Jul 28th 2023, 1:53 PM

    @Trent: Roughly a euro per day. No usage and still the bill is €60+. Before C-19 my gas bill used to be about €45 – 50 all in.

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    Mute Nick Cahill
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    Jul 28th 2023, 5:48 PM

    @GoodBrother: Really. Inflation has been creeping up for well over a year now, nearly 2. Unless you used zero electricity until this bill, or were locked into a really low tariff for almost 2 years, then I do not believe this is your highest bill since inflation started to rise.

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    Mute Daniel Roche
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    Jul 28th 2023, 7:38 PM

    @GoodBrother: I got probably one of my lowest one,since the smart meter went in my bills are going down,I can see what is driving my bill.

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    Mute Jimmy Donovan
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    Jul 28th 2023, 1:43 PM

    We are now the most expensive country in Europe to live in. I never imagined we’d be more pricey than Switzerland or Norway. Thank you, FFG. Also on track to become the most obese.14 million each day for our national debt of $250 billion. Third-world heat care systems. the capital’s inner city is rife with violence and drugs. As a country, we are regressing.

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    Mute thanks for the beautiful music christy rest in pea
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    Jul 28th 2023, 2:05 PM

    Worked hard all my life as a chef to save enough for my own buisness watching it all dwindled away look after there own big hotels cashing in a fortune on migrants while the small tourists buisness get a slap on the face .

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    Mute Paul Maguire
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    Jul 28th 2023, 1:52 PM

    There is no end to being RIP of Ireland

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    Mute James Moylan
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    Jul 28th 2023, 5:51 PM

    @Paul Maguire: unless you are a dole merchant, then you get everything paid for ,

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    Mute Martin O,Reilly
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    Jul 29th 2023, 9:31 AM

    @James Moylan: Said the Kerry man to the bull.

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    Mute will o bdee
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    Jul 28th 2023, 2:40 PM

    Stop voting FF/FG ye thick muppets, let SF in, we need a change..but in all fairness this open door my documents, come in my friends has to stop. I was walking around Ennis, Co Clare the other, For a bit I thought I was in the suburbs of Mogadishu, only the rip off cost of a pint and newspaper brought me back to drizzleville.

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    Mute Nick Cahill
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    Jul 28th 2023, 5:52 PM

    @will o bdee: The shiners will be the same, they will be forced to stay in line, easy to promise the Earth in opposition, but it will either be business as usual or populist policies will lead to medium to long term problems. either way, I cannot see it SF doing any better than the current shower of tool bags.

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    Mute Monty Carlow
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    Jul 28th 2023, 2:10 PM

    Mortgage through the roof. Extra 600 a month meant pulling kids outa 3rd level education…

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    Mute paulinlavally@gmail.com
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    Jul 28th 2023, 2:21 PM

    @Monty Carlow: Go on the dole and get mortgage paid by state, medical card, plus many more perks including grants for third level etc. etc.

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    Mute Ger Rowland.
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    Jul 28th 2023, 2:57 PM

    @paulinlavally@gmail.com: It was the Bankers and Developers that collapsed the Irish economy.
    Greed rife at the moment. Could list crisis after crisis but I can’t be bothered
    But yeah it was the guy on the dole.
    Look up lad.

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    Mute James Moylan
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    Jul 28th 2023, 5:52 PM

    @Monty Carlow: get them to learn Ukrainian or Arabic ,free everything from then on

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    Mute Virgil
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    Jul 28th 2023, 7:22 PM

    @Monty Carlow: do a deal with the bank and keep your kids in 3rd level. Education is the key to a decent job

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    Mute Daniel Roche
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    Jul 28th 2023, 7:42 PM

    @Monty Carlow: Must be a big mortgage,mine is going up €38 a month in September,hope you’re kids are working to help with college.

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    Mute Paddy C
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    Jul 28th 2023, 10:46 PM

    @Monty Carlow: go to the docks near customs during the night,row out some,rip up you’re passport row in early morning,say you’ve amnesia or lost you’re passport rowing,they’re lost on flights available when they’re boarding, lost when landing it’s amazing in a completely sealed aircraft how it can happen shouldn’t be hard to understand in a boat I’d imagine…

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    Mute Paddy C
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    Jul 28th 2023, 10:41 PM

    In who’s opinion? absolute rubbish,it’s through the roof and slowly but surely rising in different segments be it food, electricity and fuel which will again increase in october,perfect timing when kids go back to school and cold weather kicks in and people need heating oil which they’ve been putting off keeping they’re heads above water at present and we might get help with more money from government, what money? it’s all going up again they’ve said it already the payment won’t outway the cost to the average person we lose again.

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    Mute Dan Dare
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    Jul 28th 2023, 9:33 PM

    Tighten your belts. Store tins of beans. This is the peak.

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    Mute Martin O,Reilly
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    Jul 29th 2023, 9:27 AM

    That’s complete media tripe. Are you trying to feed people carrots on sticks

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    Mute Eamon De Valera
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    Jul 28th 2023, 7:27 PM

    Buy less

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