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'I was afraid, walking 25 minutes alone': Dubliners say shortage of taxis posing safety risks

Less than one third of licensed taxi driver work on Friday and Saturday night.

THE SHORTAGE OF taxis in Dublin’s city centre at peak times on weekends has left revellers waiting sometimes hours for transport while others were forced to walk long distances to get home at the end of a night out.

According to the National Transport Authority, currently there 25,336 taxi driver licences, 18,849 of which are active. 

An NTA survey this year found that 93% of licensed taxi drivers are now working, but only 29% work Friday and Saturday nights. 

The Journal asked readers to share their experiences and received a high volume of responses, particularly from women – and their partners – who found themselves feeling unsafe at the end of a night with few options for getting home. 

One woman, Holly, said she will no longer go out unless she’s driving – and not drinking – or she has a lift arranged, after a bad experience two months ago.

Friends of hers were visiting and they were at a bar in the city centre until 2am.

“I would say around 50 people were on the street in the freezing cold trying to flag down taxis or book via an app,” she said.

“After a number of failed attempts, we started to walk home. I flagged a passing taxi. My friends were quite drunk and I put them in a taxi and asked him to bring them to my address.

There wasn’t enough space for me so I had to walk home alone – my friends unfortunately didn’t understand I was left alone, but it was all a rush to get them home and get them out of the cold. I was very concerned about getting them home, I said I was fine to work away. I was cold and afraid and walked 25 minutes alone.

“Since then I have not gone out without knowing how I was getting home. My boyfriend, who goes home to Clare on weekends, will now stay up in Dublin if I have something planned. Alternatively I will not drink and will drive home – anything to avoid that situation again.”

Another woman said she had to get a lift home from the manager of a hotel that hosted her birthday party after the taxi she booked through an app was cancelled. 

Her friends, who all live close to one another, had already left in another taxi and she was by herself. Hotel staff tried to arrange another taxi for her, she said, but they had no success.

“It resulted in the hotel manager having to give me a lift home, which I was very iffy about doing because he was a stranger,” she said.

“I was going to buy a room in the hotel that night but it was sold out, so I literally had no other option.”

One reader, Keith, said his girlfriend spent three hours recently trying to get a taxi.

“She walked from Fade Street, up O’Connell street to The Rotunda [hospital],” he said.

“Even then she had to ring her brother to collect her. I was at a wedding, terrified for her safety after the attacks on women from men in our country. The situation is a joke.”

Late night bus services

There are a small number of 24-hour bus routes in Dublin city, as well as 13 Nitelink services running every hour from midnight until 4am.

However readers who spoke to The Journal said buses are also busy late at night and are sometimes too full to take them. They also said the late-night routes do not cover some areas of the city and they can still face a long walk or a search for a taxi when they get off.

One woman, Rose, tried to get a 24-hour bus home with her boyfriend after a recent night out, but just missed one when they arrived at the stop. The next one, 30 minutes later, was full when it arrived so “just zoomed past us”, she said. 

“We said we weren’t going to wait another 30 minutes for the same thing to happen, at this stage the crowd at the bus stop was looking like we’d almost fill a bus ourselves by the time one showed up,” she said. “I’m disabled but I don’t look it, so there was no chance of a guaranteed seat which I would need if we got onto the bus.”

Rose has myalgic encephalomyelitis/chronic fatigue syndrome (ME/CFS), a chronic illness that is worsened by physical exertion. She said she has to budget her energy to allow for evenings out with friends and had done so in this case, but she could not have managed a walk home. 

They had started off at Ormond Quay, walked to College Green and eventually when they reached Parnell Square they managed to flag a taxi, an hour and a half after they started looking for one. 

“I hadn’t accounted for not being able to get home and I’m still exhausted two days later,” she said.

Dublin Bus told The Journal it has experienced an increased demand for late night services on its 24-hour  routes in recent weeks. It said it has been providing additional services where possible.

The NTA has committed to providing additional bus services that operate on a 24/7 basis – the Route N4 from Blanchardstown to The Point commenced on 29 May and two further routes will follow this year.

 

Rejection based on destination

Some readers who got in touch said they did manage to hail down taxis, but when they stopped their refused to accept the fare, either because of the destination, or because they wanted to pay by card, rather than cash.

“I’ve had experiences on two consecutive weekends when taxi drivers stopped to ask where we were going – the answer was Rathgar both times – and they just drove off without accepting the fare,” Steven Dunne told The Journal.

“At least the first guy had the decency to say no. The second guy just sped off. Over the same timeframe I’ve had numerous taxis just pass me by with their lights on. For me it’s not so much the lack of taxis, just their unwillingness to stop or take mid-range fares.”

Another reader, Daniel, said after a recent night out three taxis with their plates lit stopped for him, asked where he was going and drove off when he told them his destination.

“I’m pretty much done with going into town for nights out until it’s clear getting transport home is better,” he said.

One man said his wife had a similar experience – when she told the driver she was going to Knocklyon he rolled up the window and “drove off without saying a word”, he said.

She waited almost an hour for a taxi home. 

“Luckily she had a friend who waited with her or I would have had to take our baby out of her cot to collect her,” he said.

‘This can’t be a shock’

David McGuinness, chairperson of the taxi driver representative organisation Tiomanai Tacsai Na HEireann (TTnH), told The Journal that the industry lost many drivers during the pandemic as demonstrated by the 6,487 inactive drivers recorded by the NTA. 

“Representative groups throughout the pandemic pointed out at every meeting that we’d need to have an industry when the pandemic finished, so this can’t be a shock for the government,” he said.

“It’s extremely busy at peak hours, I think off-peak we haven’t got back to pre-pandemic levels yet. I think people are still reluctant to use buses, it’s really busy on Friday and Saturday from 5pm to 9pm when people are starting to go out, I think people feel safer in their own company in a taxi.”

He said it is clear that drivers are less likely to use taxi apps during busy periods because of the 15% fee they have to pay through an app. 

“When it’s 1am or 2am and it’s busy like that you’re just more likely to pick up from the street, if the apps reduced their fees during those hours it might make a difference,” he said.

McGuinness said there are a number of measures the government should look at including an expansion of late night public transport options, later opening times for nightclubs and a premium rate for taxi drivers during those peak times to encourage those who normally stay home on Friday and Saturday nights to work.

This kind of incentive could encourage drivers who have left the industry to return, he said. 

He also said the government could consider restricting the service during those hours to ranks so there are centralised spots for people to get taxis. Taxis would not be allowed to pick up customers in the city centre other than at these ranks. McGuinness said this rule had worked well in other countries. 

When asked about examples of drivers turning down fares due to their destination, McGuinness said it was “a disgrace” and encouraged customers to report this activity to the NTA.

“This shouldn’t be happening and drivers who do that should face penalties,” he said. “It should be flagged because it’s not the way the majority of drivers operate.”

Review of maximum fares

In response to a number of queries from The Journal, the Department of Transport said the NTA is engaging in a consultation process with the industry as part of its review of the current Maximum Fares Order.

“The review process involves a detailed examination of all of the costs involved in providing these services, including fuel and vehicle costs, and all SPSV [taxi] operators were encouraged to take part in the consultation process which closed on 27 May 2022,” it said. 

The draft Maximum Fares Order 2022 proposed average increases in taxi fares of 12.5%. The department said this would provide for a premium time fare for certain hours and shorter journeys. 

“It should be noted that 57% of the hours in the week occur at Premium Time (20.00 to 08.00, Sundays and Bank Holidays),” it said. 

“This is the period, particularly on Friday and Saturday nights, when there are the most complaints about the unavailability of taxis.”

Supports introduced during the pandemic included an increase in the maximum vehicle age and a measure to allow licence holders to be inactive for 24 months so they could remain attached to the industry with no associated costs. The department said it is hoped that a significant proportion of these licences will return now that demand is increasing.

The NTA is also providing grants, it said, for the provision and conversion of vehicles to ensure they are wheelchair accessible, which is a requirement for new entrants into the industry. Grants are also provided to convert the fleet to lower emission and zero emission vehicles. 

The department said the Advisory Committee on Small Public Service Vehicles continues to meet on a monthly basis and that the NTA, which is the independent regulator of the sector, “has been in constant contact with operators, drivers and representatives throughout the pandemic via email, text messages and phone calls”.

“Given the independence of the NTA, it would be not be appropriate to engage with the Minister for Transport on these issues,” the department said. 

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    Mute Philip Cullen
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    Jun 1st 2022, 12:33 AM

    Was out on Sat night, couldn’t get a taxi so we managed to get on the 15 on Dame st, bus was rammed so the driver couldn’t let anyone else on, not exaggerating hundreds of people waiting at the bus stops, and with a bus only every half an hour, they’d be waiting a long time. Driver stopped to let people off in the North Strand and some dopes forced their way on and one of them lost the plot screaming and shouting and abusing the driver using derogatory language, the driver was a lady of colour, so she rightly so shut down the bus and called the cops. Massive screaming match then erupted between the fopes and the rest of the bus till the cops arrived and dragged them off. The driver being the legend that she was then took off like a bat out of hell and finished her route.

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    Jun 1st 2022, 1:18 AM

    @Philip Cullen: Imagine a taxi taking them people. Probably too late at that stage to call for assistance.

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    Jun 1st 2022, 9:55 AM

    @Philip Cullen: Don’t forget the idiot that punched the bus at Amiens Street as well!

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    Jun 1st 2022, 9:58 AM

    @Lauren O: had to scale down the story due to character limits!

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    Mute McQuillan Shane
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    Jun 1st 2022, 1:12 AM

    I left Ireland nearly 30 years ago and there was a shortage of taxis then and violence and crime were prevalent then too. No difference but then, what do you expect with the same bunch running the show for 30 years.

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    Mute Stephen Deegan
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    Jun 1st 2022, 7:50 AM

    @McQuillan Shane: The article is about Dublin. Please don’t tar the rest of the country with the same brush.

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    Jun 1st 2022, 8:55 AM

    @Stephen Deegan: The piece is about Taxis & Transport in Dublin. Please don’t tar us Dubs with your anti-Dublin bias. Nothing like that happens in other Irish cities?

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    Jun 1st 2022, 9:36 AM

    @Stephen Deegan: I think you’ll find the taxi shortage and lack of public transport is an issue all over the country. What is the story with country folk always dying to get a dig in at Dublin??!

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    Jun 1st 2022, 10:25 AM

    @Philip Cullen: Not as bad around the country, there is some pockets with shortages.
    Galway is not bad, Saturday Night there is a wait but you’ll get home. If there wasn’t a single pub closing time then it would be far easier…
    This is mainly a Dublin problem and has been on and off for decades…
    Don’t worry those Dubs will vote for Sinn Fein and expect them to solve the problem

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    Jun 1st 2022, 10:09 PM

    @Shea Carroll: You are mis-informed.

    https://youtu.be/et8UHcfDrxw

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    Jun 1st 2022, 10:10 PM

    @Shea Carroll: You are misinformed.

    https://youtu.be/et8UHcfDrxw

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    Jun 1st 2022, 1:20 AM

    Allow UBER to operate, that will alleviate a lot of the problem

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    Mute Gary Deering
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    Jun 1st 2022, 2:22 AM

    @Jules: then the story will be I was charged 80 euro to Tallaght, you do understand Uber Surge Charge ??? also how will these Uber cars operate in a city that is pro cycling…in fact how will they make a living outside of a 3 hour taxi shortage once a week or on a good week twice a week ?

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    Jun 1st 2022, 8:36 AM

    @Gary Deering: so let’s not do something because these things “might” happen. Here is another scenario….Uber provides a safe alternative for people to get home. Not saying it will be a success but maybe a 12mth trial would be worth a try?

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    Jun 1st 2022, 9:58 AM

    @Jules: Are you saying uber doesn’t operate in Dublin? News to me

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    Jun 1st 2022, 10:01 AM

    @Johnny Kelly: Ah, didn’t realise uber here is only used by taxis. Shows how often I take a cab in Dublin

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    Jun 1st 2022, 12:42 AM

    AH let’s bash the taxi driver who doesn’t want to work nights for fear of his/her safety. Ye see it all the time ye must be making a fortune ball ox. There is two sides to every story.

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    Jun 1st 2022, 8:41 AM

    @Paul Gorry: and while we’re at it let’s give out about them wanting to increase prices while fuel (y’know, the thing that make car go vroom) prices are skyrocketing.

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    Jun 1st 2022, 8:48 AM

    @Liam Edward Harris: Fuel is a business expense for them so tax deductible.

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    Jun 1st 2022, 9:42 AM

    @Paul Gorry: What about the safety of lone women that they leave on side of the street at 3am to walk home alone because it’s not fare that they fancy?

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    Jun 1st 2022, 10:06 AM

    @Paul Hedderman: I don’t think you understand how tax deductible expenses work, its not like it costs them nothing. It allows them reduce the profit they have to pay but they still have to pay for the fuel.

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    Jun 1st 2022, 11:04 AM

    @DK: *reduce the profit they have to pay TAX ON.

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    Jun 1st 2022, 7:44 AM

    Cash can’t be traced so taxis can avoid paying tax by insisting on cash fares. Also there are some non EU drivers that are driving taxis illegally.

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    Jun 1st 2022, 12:19 AM

    Taxi as a public transport should be regulated to make sure the population will have their needs fulfilled.

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    Jun 1st 2022, 12:47 AM

    @Thiago Schmitz: they should be, but there also should be proper transport on at night time, buses, darts and luas should all be running to some extent. I’m not sure if the nitelinks are even back yet.

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    Jun 1st 2022, 12:49 AM

    @Thiago Schmitz: on the contrary: there are not enough taxes because it’s regulated and expensive to be a taxi driver. In countries where it’s not so heavily regulated like here, there are plenty of cheap, clean and friendly Uber cabs.

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    Jun 1st 2022, 4:27 AM

    @Sebastian Manka:
    Kind of misses a glaring issue around peak demand, when have pubs/lates/clubs all emptying at 23.30/02.30/04.00, or whatever the times are , and the concentration of those in fairly small areas ( not the pubs so much)

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    Jun 2nd 2022, 7:21 AM

    @Thiago Schmitz: what planet have you been living on? Taxis are one of the most regulated industries.

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    Jun 1st 2022, 1:25 AM

    My daughter has just arrived home in taxi, fare was supposed to be 17-50, has been charged 75 on her card via sum up, she’s had a few drinks but ok, driver had his hand on card machine and she couldn’t see the amount.

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    Jun 1st 2022, 1:30 AM

    @Jane Sherlock: maybe teach her to be careful next time. Jayus were is the personal responsibility gone. If she’s old enough to drink she’s old enough to know better.

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    Jun 1st 2022, 2:27 AM

    @Jane Sherlock: Trace it and report the piece of ……don’t let it happen to another person, but double check your daughter did not agree to pay said Taxi drive that price before he started the journey either way it sounds wrong! report the driver !

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    Jun 1st 2022, 4:20 AM

    @Jane Sherlock:
    There are multiple things to make a bit clearer about that.
    ‘supposed to be 17.50?’ unless is a fixed fare agreed in advance like a hackney, a taxi driver flagged on street, or at a rank, will if asked, maybe give an approximate estimate, not guarantee, if meter running that’s generally what final cost would be.
    If using something like SumUp, then there is recourse there if an actual fraud has occurred. There is also recourse methods available via the taxi regulator, especially if have the receipt.

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    Jun 1st 2022, 7:21 AM

    @Paul Gorry: he s a thief .. terrible reply from you

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    Jun 1st 2022, 11:03 AM

    @John Kavanagh:
    Mistakes can be made.

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    Jun 1st 2022, 7:54 AM

    We also need to look at 24 hour opening hours. It doesn’t help that everyone is thrown out, drunk on the street looking for taxis and buses home.

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    Jun 1st 2022, 2:16 AM

    Bring back the Taxi Sharing system that was operating from College Green many years ago. It was brilliant for everybody involved. Stewarts, drivers and customers all benefitted from it.

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    Jun 1st 2022, 7:53 AM

    @Andrew Behan: Jaysus that was great. Only ran it for a while tho. Could never understand why it wasn’t extended.

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    Jun 1st 2022, 8:49 AM

    The panic to get out of the city every night could be avoided if control of the city by thugs was ended and a government re-established the rule of law. At the moment, as every Dub knows, it is as a no-go area.

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    Jun 1st 2022, 7:22 AM

    I’m calling total bs on this story .. No young girl is gonna put her friends in a taxi and walk 30 mins home by herself ..

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    Jun 1st 2022, 7:35 AM

    @John Kavanagh: you weren’t there Johnny boy!

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    Jun 1st 2022, 9:21 AM

    @Sean: Keith was she I guessing seanie son

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    Jun 2nd 2022, 3:17 PM

    @John Kavanagh: It’s what you do for guests. No reason to question that.

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    Jun 1st 2022, 7:42 AM

    Perhaps “peak weekend hours” are prone to the most problematic passenger behaviour. Cleaning vomit out of your taxi must get old.

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    Jun 1st 2022, 8:21 AM

    I was talking to a taxi driver recently about this. He said the apps have made it easier for drivers to earn enough during the day throughout the week now so very few bother working the weekend nights

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    Jun 1st 2022, 9:54 AM

    @David Reilly: that’s bs and I’m a taxi driver ….

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    Jun 1st 2022, 10:06 AM

    @David Reilly: Yep, heard the same.

    Why deal with drunk annoying people when you make enough during the day. Very few wants to drive nights anymore.

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    Jun 1st 2022, 10:38 AM

    @Nick Murphy: To be clear, you are one taxi driver of many.

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    Jun 1st 2022, 1:11 PM

    @David Reilly: 25 years driving a taxi and thelat one of many that you were talking to was talking nonsense

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    Jun 1st 2022, 2:06 PM

    @Nick Murphy: taxi apps are not around even close to that number of years so I’m not really sure how the number of years you are working has anything to do with what I said.

    What’s your take on why there are no taxis available in the city centre on any weekend after midnight as I am one of many (in the comments alone) can confirm it is a nightmare to try and get one due to the shortage.

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    Jun 1st 2022, 9:04 PM

    @David Reilly: I am trying to tell you of my long experience driving a taxi and to explain that during this time I’ve met a lot of taxi drivers and most of them lie …you were lied to , the reason Saturday night was bad is there were a lot of things on that had the whole city out socialising, I.e Dublin match champions league final, the leinster game plus bingo loco in the 3 arena , it was a perfect storm and won’t happen again for a while , I personally work 6 days a week on 2 apps and I still need to work fri and sat , again the taxi driver you spoke with was lying to you probably to suit your narrative .

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    Jun 1st 2022, 8:55 AM

    Sounds like a First World problem to me. Maybe just don’t stay out that late or avoid getting plastered so you can drive home?

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    Jun 1st 2022, 9:23 AM

    @Sohoma Roanie: I kind of agree with you. I suppose it’s another instance of how dysfunctional everything seems to be. I heard an funny analogy the other day on the very low employment rate. Everyone is working but nothing is working.

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    Jun 1st 2022, 4:20 AM

    Ubers simple

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    Jun 1st 2022, 6:22 AM

    @Brax Braxton: Uber is already operating in Dublin

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    Jun 1st 2022, 7:21 AM

    @Brendan Deegan: not quite operating as intended tho – you will be aware that ordinarily uber allows drivers to use their private cars as a taxi to earn additional money – but in irekand you must be fully registered as a taxi at considerable expense including very high insurances etc etc to operate as uber – so there are no additional cars above regulated taxi that operate as uber – that’s a very important distinction – which I think you know already

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    Jun 2nd 2022, 3:22 PM

    Wouldn’t it make far more sense to have more public transport available? It’s not going to be much help for one or two people to get into a stranger’s car – and it’s not going to be totally safe for part-time inexperienced drivers either. I’d much prefer to know I could catch a night bus than to be stuck in town late at night.

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    Jun 1st 2022, 8:22 AM

    I was wondering if anyone has contacted the National Transport and ask were is all the buses Luas Dart.and Trains..Taxis bashing again .

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    Mute Jason Walsh
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    Jun 1st 2022, 8:45 AM

    We’re back to the min 00s again with not enough taxis and having to walke home. I remember it well but not fondly.

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    Mute Nadia Smith
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    Jun 1st 2022, 8:34 AM

    The government are so protective of the taxi drivers, it’s all votes! All theses adds on the radio oh why don’t you download “Free Now” and book your ride hassle free, literally advertising a service that’s not there! Uber works in other countries just fine! You can rate the taxi driver so there is some comeback on aggressive passengers. I’m not out for taxi drivers but competition is healthy!

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    Mute Derek Moean
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    Jun 1st 2022, 8:45 AM

    @Nadia Smith: I don’t think the Taxi industry would mind uber. Same as my Taxi. Or bolt.or any other cab company. Once its a fully Licensed and fully public liability insurance.

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    Mute Nick Murphy
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    Jun 1st 2022, 10:54 AM

    Little bit of perspective here, there was a dublin match on and the champions league final , also the leinster game plus bingo loco in the 3 arena , if you had 25000 taxis on the road last Saturday night it still wouldn’t be enough ……there is enough taxis 99% of the time but on nights like this the whole city is out , the other 6 nights sees taxi driverss fighting for work, if you want a taxi on these nights leave early instead of ordering 3 drinks for last orders its just greed and then moan you can’t get home .

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    Mute Liam Edward Harris
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    Jun 1st 2022, 9:14 AM

    @Paul Hedderman: that’s great come the end of October when the tax bill is due. But it doesn’t change that they need money in their pocket right now to cover a sudden, dramatic increase in fuel prices

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    Mute Jim Monaghan
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    Jun 1st 2022, 4:06 PM

    its time the Aircoach crowd restored the service to its pre pandemic level. Anybody coming into Dublin Airport after 9ish at night is forced into long and expensive taxi queues. Even in daytime, they’re running every two hours instead of hourly. Aircoach got its license on the basis it would provide a service. It got the Dun Laoghaire route in preference to an excellent service provided up to then by the Patton Flyer. Surely government could threaten to remove license unless they step up and provide an adequate service?

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    Mute Paul Jude Redmond
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    Jun 1st 2022, 4:49 PM

    @Jim Monaghan: you mean collective punishment for the entire industry

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    Mute Fiona Fitzgerald
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    Jun 2nd 2022, 3:24 PM

    @Jim Monaghan: Aircoach is intercity. They were never a late-night personal taxi service.

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    Mute Ciaran McQuaid
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    Jun 1st 2022, 3:42 PM

    Christ where do they get these people from do they not actually know that town is busy on a Saturday night? Wah wah there were no taxis the bus was busy ffs you’re an adult plan your night out a d way home accordingly.

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    Mute Niall O'Reilly
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    Jun 1st 2022, 3:34 PM

    I was impressed to hear of the community taxi service which exists on Vancouver Island. People there will register to volunteer to drive each other to and from bars and late night venues. It’s a great idea and boosts the community spirit. It’s also free! Can’t Dubliners get their community support taxi service up and running or is this only possible in Canada?!

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