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Sky news have also just reported that the aircraft was travelling at ” full speed 24 knots”. Unbelievable rubbish being spouted but it does look as though there may not be any survivors. Tragic.
A spokesman for France’s DGAC aviation authority said the airliner crashed near the town of Barcelonnette about 100 km (65 miles) north of the French Riviera city of Nice. A statement from the prime minister’s office said the crash happened in Meolans-Revel, a remote and sparsely inhabited commune in the foothills of the French Alps.
I wonder do the French know something that the rest of us don’t.. Already their saying there will be no survivors and the French President has said there may be other consequences relating from this crash… A bit early to be making them statements when the plane has just gone down imo..
There was no transponder communication for 7700 manually inputted from the aircraft. The emergency was communicated by radio verbally to ATC as ‘Emergency, emergency.’ The A320 is also able to send an automated 7700 if the engines power down at altitude. Any of the transponder tracking I’ve seen all show non-emergency squaks.
A very sad time for the families who lost there loved ones. Lets hope and pray the press will leave them along. They have enough to handle with there loss.
I rarely take notice of the murder or accident articles written here, because there’s just so many of them. And then a notification comes up of a plane crash, and you visualise hundreds dying, whilst you’re just sitting around sipping on a coffee, the contrast of horror makes me shiver.
I didn’t mean sound cold in my comments, and my heart goes out to all who have lost loved ones and of course to those that have lost their lives.
But I was staying just inside france near the alps for a few months on a student exchange and that part of the world is about as flat as the top of a toblerone, what we call mountains here, they call bumps.
I can never understand the need for, or benefit of including images of grieving family members in such a devastating and horrific situation such as this.
I have absolutely everything crossed that the people on that plane are ok. As someone who is terrified of flying I feel sick to my stomach reading this. I couldn’t imagine anything more terrifying. Please please please let everyone be ok.
That’s a paddlin’, religious nonsense to you. Could you not adopt a live and let live approach.
You don’t have to agree with someone to still be respectful of their view
@tom I am not actually anti-religious. But when someone says ‘may god help them’ in a case like this. It just seems so illogical. Why didnt god stop the plane from crashing then? Why would he choose to help any of them now? I appriciate those who say such things have their hearts in the right place… but lets not completely detach from logic.
I don’t have the answers to your questions That’s a paddlin’, but there are assumptions being made by you around peoples beliefs. Personally I dislike the word “God” as it means such different things to so many. 1000 people in a room and someone says the word God, you’ll have 1000 different images/ideas around the word God. From an Interventional God, as was your image, to all kinds of religious and spiritual images. But to dismiss the belief system of anyone is disrespectful.
God bless :)
Germanwings are an excellent airline, owned by Lufthansa and the A320 is an exceptional plane. They fly this route all the time. This is a huge worry for the industry!!
Just watching German news. Ex LH pilot saying this is almost unthinkable a believes it’s terror related. I know too early to tell. I’m just relaying German media.
Why Charles, Bob simply said what was reported as a possibility, a possibility that hadn’t even crossed my mind. An accident is bad enough but that would be so much worse in my mind anyway
In the meantime traffic overflies the area as normal. This is routine and there are no problems with this, but it must be so disturbing for these flight crews knowing that some of their own are below.
Just looking at the graph you put up, the issue is clearly groundspeed as it is fluctuating so much, It cannot be indicated air speed as the speed should only change + or – minus 5 knots, especially at that altitude as your in coffin corner. The rate of decent based on altitude vs time indicates that the aircraft would have had an uncommanded nose pitch down due to, more than likely, the operational engineering bulletin 48 (OEB V-Alpha Prot) which affects the angle of attacks probes. In lehmans terms, two out of the three air data computers would presume the plane is stalling and the self preservation system on board the aircraft (normal law) would force the nose down in an attempt to recover from the stall (instrument error).
Paul according to that the aircraft maintained cruise speed of 400kts (740kph) but still dropped 38,000 ft in eight minutes while maintaining that speed…very strange.
Accidents are always gonna happen. Wether you’re taking a flight, driving somewhere etc there’ll always be that risk. The industry will survive & possibly learn from the cause, friends & families may never recover. RIP to the deceased & my thoughts are with their loved ones.
This is an incredibly safe A320 and does not just fall out of the sky. This was a catastrophic incident where something very major and rare has obviously happened. There are so many of these planes flying every day carrying so many people. Everyone involved (in the industry) with these planes will be concerned or worried by this incident and will want to know the facts as soon as possible to ensure that their A320′s will not be subject to the same – whatever that is.
It is fairly obvious to all that the families, friends (and the Germanwings staff) will suffer traumatically because of the incident. I actually didn’t think it was neccessary to qualify my original comment as such, but it looks like I should have.
In other words no one has a clue what happened but they have to fill the news channels with drivel somehow. Talking heads being encouraged to talk sensational nonsense. Sky News is the worst, circling like vultures.
Tom cynical as it may sound there’s a commercial world’s best practice in the airline industry for major crashes: Your brand car survive one catastrophic event ever ten years.
According to the graph that is shown above, they were descending at 400 knots/460 MPH. Impact looks to have happened at that speed too. Survival is pretty remote I’m sad to say…
Who are the heartless b**s*ards going around disliking all of the comments offering condolences?
I really cant understand what goes on in some peoples’ heads.
You are obviously new to this site. It comes with the territory. If Journal.ie had any wit they would get rid of the red thumbs. Sorry, must go, there a red thumb knocking at the front door.
God love them all, I wouldn’t be the greatest flyer in the world, but being on a plane knowing it’s going to crash is one of my worst nightmares which sadly probably came through for 140 people today.
Terrible news. Was there bad weather or a mechanical fault I wonder. Can’t speculate on loss of life so hoping for the best. Thinking of those concerned.
Bad weather rarely takes down an aircraft and at 34000ft your above it. Obviously something catastrophic. We may know fast as they did put in a mayday.
Yeah it’s terrible to think they put out a distress call so they knew they were in trouble. Thinking of them now and their families. So many aircraft tragedies in the last few months. My friend lost his father-in-law in Taiwan crash last summer shortly after the mh370 disappearance.
No May Day Charles, just the transponder transmitting a distress code 7700 which was inputted by the flight crew. All that tells us is the aircraft was in some kind of emergency situation.
Terribly sad news. Thoughts are with all the families. Really hoping for survivors, and that the rescue team can get to the site of the crash quickly for them.
Yea completely agree. I also don’t understand why journalists think we need to see pictures of the families after they have just heard the news. Give them some privacy.
This isn’t some west African Mickey Mouse outfit flying 40yr old planes. It’s one of Europes oldest airlines flying a modern, safe aircraft. I’d be surprised if it was an age related or maintainence related issue but I suppose anything is possible.
Nothing wrong with the age of the aircraft, same fault could of easily happened with a much a newer model. The Lufthansa A320 fleet isn’t exactly ancient anyway as they have plenty of brand new models of the A320 & many more to be delivered
@Damian, this A320 was built in 1990 and delivered to Luthansa in 1991. Age (unless you are talking 30+ years) really has little to do with the reliability of modern jets. Airlines every 10 years usually update their jets’ interior (seating, avionics bay and cockpit). An aircraft can fly for 30-40 years, and yet 60-70% of its critical parts could be less than ten years old. Engines could be renewed multiple times over two decades. Modern aircraft are often still in production for more than two decades, let alone service. The 747 was launched in the 1960s, and Boeing still make the 747-800 50+ years later.
This A320 had the latest AV bay and systems installed when it was switched from Lufthansa to Germanwings.
Thanks Mick. Yeah I’m well aware of aircraft maintenance and upgrades procedure over the years. There was no info to suggest that they had done this to hand so it might have been a factor until we knew better. In saying that there could have been some airframe structural issue. One expert was talking about a cabin breach in the cockpit with the crew losing consciousness as a possible scenario. We don’t know for sure. I think air incident investigation teams will have a very difficult job from the debris pictures that are floating about.
To say that the Boeing 747-800 built today shares any technology with the first 747s is a bit disingenuous. As you mention, avionics and flight systems as well as materials used have come a long way since the 60s.
Agree on the 747, and many aircraft in service for a long time; you can’t judge a book by it’s cover. A twenty year old aircraft can look identical to one off the production line but be completely different under the skin. That was my point.
The cockpit breach is something being examined with MH370. An exploding oxygen bottle using a decompress and seriously maiming one or both crew members and taking out some of the wiring below on the left side of the AV bay.
With this one, 9525, the descent was rapid but controlled. Something you would expect with a fire or decompress, but I can’t understand why no level off at 10,000ft. The ground proximity alert would have been screaming at them in the cockpit, yet they continued to descend. Locating the cockpit recorder is critical here.
Yeah quite strange that there was no level out if it was a decompression scenario. Someone mentioned that it could have been the flight computer reacting to a stall scenario that tried to make the nose dive… If they were unconscious they couldn’t react etc. They’ve found one of the flight recorders anyway. Hopefully the data can be read.
I will forever more measure thejournal in these contrasting approaches to reporting:
Plane crash, while incredibly tragic, getting voyeurism like live feeds which now extend to about 20 presses of “PgDn”
Israeli elections that could see a significant shift in geopolitics: 2 stories in 24 hours mostly concentrating on “This kind of irishman could be the next Israeli prime minister” to “This kind of irishman has been defeated” with zero analysis.
This is truly horrific. We can only feel compassion for the victims and for their surviving relatives and friends.
I know very little about air safety and I think that it is far too early to hypothesise about the cause of this tragic crash.
I am disturbed by what it known. It seems that the aircraft went into a very steep descent from just under 38,000 ft to under 8,000 ft in a period of about 9.32 AM and ending at about 9.40. The airplane’s descent was at a rate of 400 knots approximately throughout the entire period of descent.
The angle of descent is such that the pilots and the passengers, if conscious, would have been fully aware of the descent, it would have been very noticeable with a significant sense of forward nose down showing. There is nothing to indicate sudden decompression or catastrophic failure of the fuselage or engines.
No distress call was made.
I speculate that one possible (conceivable) explanation is that the pilots were disabled, unconscious, or otherwise. That is pure speculation, of course, and it will require the experts to arrive at a cause. One black box has been recovered and the hopefully the other will soon be located. I just hope that all concerned might have been unconscious and not subject to the terror of such a long descent. Perhaps, mobile phones, especially smart phones and other devices may help. if passengers were conscious, and despite the steep descent, they would have been able to record but not transmit messages, if conscious. I just hope, for their sake, that they were all unconscious.
Obviously the investigators will study everything available, reduce this down to a limited and very narrow range of possibilities and then conclude the cause, falling a further review.
It looks likely, I think, that a probable cause will be concluded at quite an early stage.
Not really Ted its the digital age, information is now received in real time. The altitude and airspeed data for the entire flight, transmitted live by the Aircraft’s transponder, was published in graph form in the article above. We know what happened, look at the last 8 minutes of the flight, but we don’t know why yet.
We live on a rock floating around in space that has a mass of 6,000,000,000,000,000 billion kg moving at 67,000 mph around a burning nuclear reactor. My point is nothing is really 100% safe or fail proof.
The drive to the airport is the most dangerous part of any commercial flight, as has been documented again and again. One reason air crashes seem so awful is that they are so incredibly rare, compared to the daily tally of deaths on our roads that almost pass without note.
A note to the Journal.ie author – please bother to check your facts before reporting incorrect info. You’ve reported the plane being 25 yrs old when it is in fact only 24 yrs old !!! Sick of the Journals reporting getting sloppier and shoddier by the day !!
They will likely either need a bailout which is very politically difficult in Germany or to start selling assets. Swiss airlines would be the obvious high value disposal and Walsh and IAG were desperate to acquire it 6 years ago… There might be no more interest in Aer Lingus if Swiss looks likely to come up for sale…
Lufthansa is a huge multinational with so many subsideries and even if the incident was 100% the fault of Lufthansa/Germanwings, I’d say people would still keep flying with them.
They’re entering a second cost cutting program in the last 5 years after the first failed. This time shedding 3,500 jobs.
Revenue flat, issued a profit warning that it would fail to meet targets just last month.
Already shut down half of lufthansa technic… Disposed of BMI, shut down all longhual not from Frankfurt or Munich and reallocated all the shorthaul to germanwings.
Mass pilot strikes latest a week ago, cabin crew are quite angry as when the pilots strike they don’t fly, and half their salary is flight allowances.
They are in terrible shape, the size of the company has no effect… In fact the bigger they are the harder they fall, and foreign subsidiaries are often more of a liability.
How would acquiring Swiss give more power to IAG transatlantic? Finnair would be a good fit with their excellent connections to Asia & Oneworld ties. Swiss & their Star Alliance connections wouldn’t be worth it.
Swiss would exit star Alliance and join Oneworld… That’s what killed the acquisition last time there was no appetite among the Swiss board for the costs of switching alliances.
But that was a weaker BA… Now it has Iberia and what’s left of BMI behind it.
Transatlantic is irrelevant… Ski and business out of Switzerland traffic is huge business. It could stem an underperforming european market for IAG.
Apologies, my hastily written comment has caused some offence obviously. I wrote it while standing on a roof in work and when the initial article didn’t mention what airline was involved. It’s a terrible tragedy, no doubt about it. What the families are going through is horrendous.
It seems that the theory of unconsciousness is unlikely, because the place would have remained on its flight path. Explosive decompression has been concluded as unlikely and it seems that the plane was intact up to the moment of impact.
The plane descended steeply and fast but not as fast as if there had been a total loss of control.
Apparently, the absence of a distress call is regarded as insignificant as the focus of the pilots would have been on a desperate attempt to recover control.
Was there mechanical/hydraulic failure? Was there a final levelling out just prior to the crash? Was it a controlled descent? If so, why? Was it an emergency move?
The partial comfort is that aviation experts are saying that there is a lot of data available and there is a high probability of a reliable explanation of the cause.,
It seems that the event occurred during the safest phase of the flight, mid flight or beyond, not at take off or landing.
RTE reported that the “plane fell out of the sky” but the speed and flight descent contradict this description.
It’s when an aircraft’s transponder transmits the numbers “7700″, that means it’s in some kind of emergency situation that is putting the aircraft in danger.
The pilots had eight minutes from the time of the initial loss of altitude to the point of impact and said nothing during this time. Either they were unconscious, due to lack of oxygen resulting from de-pressurisation, or on the other hand, an attack of some kind from a third party. We will probably know fairly soon. The loss of life is horrendous. My sympathies to anyone reading this who may have been a friend or a family member of anyone lost in this catastrophe.
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