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'Remember a few years ago we were told butter was bad for you?'

New guidelines could be issued for red meat consumption.

Updated at 9.18pm

THERE HAVE BEEN warnings to take new research on a link between processed red meat and cancer with a pinch of salt.

The new findings from the World Health Organisation show that 50g of meat a day – which is around two slices of ham – could increase a person’s chances of colorectal cancer by 18%.

However, this is relative to the overall slice of the population that suffer from the condition.

Speaking on the Today with Sean O’Rourke programme, Professor Hugh Mulcahy, consultant gastroenterologist at St Vincent’s Hospital, said:

“You’ve got to start off with the fact that about 5 out of 100 Irish people will get colorectal cancer at some stage in their life. So the risk of getting colorectal cancer is about 5%. This increases the risk by 18%, but it is a risk of the 5% that it is increased by.

So it has increased from around 5% to just under 6%.

Warning 

This follows Irish farmers issuing a warning against a knee-jerk response to yesterday’s World Health Organisation report linking processed red meat to cancer.

The research found the risk of colorectal cancer was higher in people who consume large amounts of these meats. Irish Farmers Association president Eddie Downey said similar reports have ‘come and gone’ before in the past.

“Quite simply, everything is bad for you at this stage,” he told Newstalk Breakfast.

Remember butter, a few years ago, we were told it was bad for you, and butter sales collapsed, milk prices collapsed. Now they tell us that butter is good for us. That’s the same people making the same statements.

Downey believes a controlled response is needed to limit damage to the Irish beef industry “if we manage it right, don’t have an over-reaction to it and let’s see how it runs out”.

If we take a balanced view on these things, have a balanced diet, everything in moderation, I don’t think there’s any difficulty in this.

Changing guidelines 

Speaking on RTÉ’s Morning Ireland, chief specialist in public health nutrition with the Food Safety Authority Dr Mary Flynn said the agency will issue revisions to its current guidelines if necessary following a review of the data.

Flynn noted that the current guidelines recommend that the public vary sources of protein in their diet, and that red meat shouldn’t be consumed more than three times a week.

She added that it would be misleading to say that the study means the risk of cancer from processed meats is the same as that from asbestos or smoking, but rather the amount.

A statement from the HSE read:

As this report is quite detailed and complex, it will require careful consideration by the HSE to determine what action, if any, is needed regarding changes to nutritional plans for public health services.

The Department of Health has also issued advice on eating meat. It said the WHO findings have been sent to an expert group for their consideration.

It said new revised Healthy Eating Guidelines will be issued by the end of 2015.

In the meantime, it said consumers should consult the Food Safety Authority of Ireland which has published guidance following the WHO report. Their guidelines are available here.

The department added:

Meat is an important source of protein, iron and vitamins. Eating healthy food and being physically active will help to improve health. The most important goal is to try to eat a balanced diet.

The World Health Organisation’s International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC) analysed 800 studies from around the world and found that processed meats such as sausages, ham, and hot dogs cause bowel cancer, and red meat “probably” does too.

It placed processed meat into its Group 1 category of carcinogens. Other substances in the group include alcohol, asbestos and tobacco.

Australia’s agriculture minister ridiculed the landmark report, saying it was “a farce” to suggest they could be as lethal as cigarettes.

“I don’t think that we should get too excited that if you have a sausage you’re going to die of bowel cancer because you’re not,” Barnaby Joyce said. “You just don’t want to live on sausages.”

- First published 10am 

Additional reporting by Christina Finn, Michael Sheils Mcnamee and AFP.

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    Sep 10th 2024, 12:19 AM

    I always found this to be a patronising & divisive way of being ‘qualified’ to elect such esteemed “leaders”. Yes, I DO have a vote but I’ve never availed of it…… Quite pompous that I’m somewhat more entitled to vote than any of my school mates that studied the trades or wet straight into employment.archaic system that needs replacing

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    @Buster Lawless: You’re a paragon of virtue all the same Ken.

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    Sep 10th 2024, 12:39 AM

    @Buster Lawless: It’s quite interesting, the difference between how you type when commenting about Irish politics versus your inability to string a coherent sentence together when waffling on about Trump. Like most of the so-called Irish MAGA fans, it’s all just an act.

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    @Brian: sleep soundly at night, never wronged anyone….. If that’s an issue for you…..we’ll, shocker, I really couldn’t possibly care less.

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    Sep 10th 2024, 12:44 AM

    @Jason Memail: 3 of my children were born stateside, Mrs Lawless & I hold US citizenship & YES we are members of the Republican party& are looking forward to voting ( again) for President Trump…… Suck it up!!!!!

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    Sep 10th 2024, 12:46 AM

    @Buster Lawless: I don’t get the “suck it up” bit. You voted for him last time, and he lost. What’s there to suck up? I mean – he lost? MAGA heads are just weird.

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    Sep 10th 2024, 12:50 AM

    @Buster Lawless: ‘ never wronged anyone’, like I say you’re a paragon of virtue Ken .. lol . And you must care a little bit.. you wouldn’t have replied if you didn’t.. bless. Sleep tight Ken.. Big night for ya tomorrow night LOL.

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    @Jason Memail: 2016 I canvassed and voted for President Trump before he became the ‘NO WAR’ President….. anyhow, can’t see the link between US elections & voting ‘rights’ to the Seanad so again i’d say …’suck it up’

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    @Brian: ??? How’d you know I’m going to the Ireland v Greece game?? That’s a bit weird, COYBIG!!!

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    @Buster Lawless: ha ha..Like when you said you were ‘stateside’ for the weekend whilst commenting on the Darts at Christmas Ken .. you were well busted there ‘ buster ‘ .. You’re some Walter Mitty lad . . Lol.

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    @Buster Lawless: During Trump’s time as president: Bombed Yemen, Somalia and Syria. Dropped – his words – the ‘mother of all bombs’ on Afghanistan and bragged about it. Assassinated a foreign military leader. Drone strikes in Syria and Iraq alone killed over 13k civilians. Increased troop levels in Afghanistan by 25% freed over 5k Taliban members, including the terrorist now running Afghanistan. Truly, the president of peace – facts don’t care about your feelings. At least you’ll get another chance to rally behind him for ’28.

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    @Buster Lawless: Trump would say mass in little old Catholic Ireland to fair. Having said that,if he doesn’t get elected,I’d reckon anarchy in america. Why? Because that’s what he wants. It’s all about him. Peace maker me hole…

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    @Brian: lol, ever look in mirror?? Only joined journal.ie in may…. Haven’t been back in US 2024…. but look if your juvenile ramblings work for you… If they give you a weird sense of validation/value……then you just ignore the posters on here that ridicule you constantly & you go ‘large’ & fill your boots

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    @Jason Memail: so you people can read? That’s impressive.
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    @Buster Lawless: Do you understand why the Seanad was created. I doubt it, as if you did you would realise why it has those seats.
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    @Buster Lawless: Well that explains a lot, vote away as he is digging himself bigger holes to fall into daily.

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    @Buster Lawless: The “No War” president, he wanted to invade Venezuela among other countries.
    He demanded missions happened which failed miserably with bad results and the generals admit they would not show him information as he was likely to over react and endanger more people.
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    @jiminybillybob: What you’re conveniently leaving out is that nobody else is trying to paint their preferred candidate as the pinnacle of peace. Yes – they have all started wars, continued wars, dropped bombs, and killed civilians.

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    Maybe Darragh should totally concentrate on the housing issues. That would be nice for sure….

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    Sep 10th 2024, 12:36 AM

    @Paul Gorry: he is Minister for Housing, Local Government and Heritage, therefore Seanad reform falls under his remit.

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    @Pat Hazzard: Oh ye get you pat. He’s having a day off.

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    Sep 10th 2024, 12:32 AM

    How about a bill to allow everyone over 18 to vote in the Seanad elections? Remove this stupid elitist education barrier.

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    @qffaffaf affrafrfraf: YES, 100%….. Farcical system at present

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    At a time when the government are so focused on equality and fairness, why are they still persisting with this system of electing the Seanad. Firstly if we have to have the Seanad let the general electorate vote , secondly, why should someone who “graduated” have more rights than those who didn’t? …..We all play our part in society!!!

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    @Ollie Fitzpatrick: Learn our history and you will learn why the Seanad was created in the fashion it was.
    A two house system is known as the best type of government, with the second house, in this case the Seanad having a different make up to the main house, The Dail, for specific reasons.
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    @Gary Kearney: I am well aware of how and why it was set up, and am quite entitled to pass comment on it. I do not agree with the system of election. We should all have a say rather than the so called intellectual core!!

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    so only a certain class of society would be allowed to vote for them ?
    what kind of elitist FFG Scandal is that ?

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    @Dominic Leleu: Read the history of the Seanad and understand that it was nothing to do with them at all!

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    Sep 10th 2024, 8:41 AM

    The people of the county should have a vote to elected these senators it is called democracy

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    Sep 10th 2024, 12:21 AM

    No harm. Will hopefully end the cosy cartel that currently keeps dark-ages fanatics like Ronan Mullen in a seat.

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    @Jason Memail: I disagree with Ronan Mullins on a lot of things but his and other dissenting voices are badly needed in our democracy. He and a few others called the last two referendums right and were very vocal.

    Whatever you think, his voice and other conservative voices are badly needed.

    That said, the university votes need to go.

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    @Teresa Ryan: A stopped clock is also right every now and then – doesn’t mean it’s something to be celebrated. How many referendums has he been on the losing side for?

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    Sep 10th 2024, 8:15 AM

    The people voted a number of years ago in referendum to keep the Seanad as overseer to government proposed legislation ,when at the time Taoiseach Enda Kenny was pushing for it’s abolition. We were promised after that vote that reform would take place into how”ALL”the citizens of this country would be allowed to vote in senate elections.Still the elitism continues in Seanad Eireann.Shame on us for putting up with this elitism and nonsense.

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    Sep 10th 2024, 10:52 AM

    @Gary Heslin: EK did indeed propose the abolition of the Seanad and as far as I remember suggested “something else” would be put in its place but the alternative wasn’t finalised. Having a Dail without the Seanad didn’t feel safe to me, I voted no. If EK had the alternative ready for me to consider I’d probably have voted yes.

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    Sep 10th 2024, 8:24 AM

    Is it not obscene that the TDs are entertaining making something that is undemocratic and wrong slightly less undemocratic and wrong when they have the opportunity to make it right , by extending the voting rights to all Irish citizens.

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    Sep 10th 2024, 9:50 AM

    I can not understand why a certain body of people is given a vote for this place, which is just a club for the select few. Anyhow, why am I and everybody else being disinfranchised as it’s the taxpayers thats funding this ‘House of Lords’

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    @Anthony Whoriskey: You are not disinfranchised at all. You simply do not know how it works and that is not the Seanad or the Senators fault

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    Sep 10th 2024, 7:26 PM

    @Gary Kearney: Please explain, seeing as you seem to know how the majority of the electorate is not disenfranchised.

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    Sep 10th 2024, 7:32 AM

    Dáil gives regional representation, which actually is more closely akin to the role of local government. The Seanad SHOULD give sectoral representation, where everbody can vote for representatives in one or 2 chosen sectors such as Agricultural, Education, Manufacturing, Small Business, Environmental, Transport, Fisheries, Communication, Tech, etc. etc.

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    Sep 10th 2024, 12:14 PM

    Perhaps the taoiseachs right to appoint members should go as well

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    Sep 10th 2024, 7:05 AM

    if in place it will need to be removed asap

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    Sep 10th 2024, 9:20 AM

    How timely. We only had the referendum to allow this in 1979…
    Should’ve gotten rid of this place when we had the chance. The Dáil is the only institution that can the Senate any power or relevance. Why would any politician create a rival for themselves? It’s never gonna happen.
    We’re stuck with this broom cupboard of nobodies for good now.

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    Sep 10th 2024, 11:55 AM

    @Ronan Mc: So you do not understand what the Seanad does or why it is there or how a two house government works. Fine.
    Then say that. The Seanad has power and relevance but you don’t understand that as you do not understand as most people how the government and the civil service is run.

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    Sep 10th 2024, 12:03 PM

    Stop all these token appointments to the Seanad. Everyone needs to be voted in. Failed politicians need to find another number, but not at taxpayers expense.

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    Sep 10th 2024, 6:32 AM

    About time. I do vote but it’s the same old same

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    Sep 10th 2024, 12:00 PM

    A second house is there to protect the people from overly powerful governments and it works.
    The system of voting needs changing and that is well known and wanted by all.
    The demolition of the house only suits parties that want absolute power.
    The idea behind the Seanad is to have sectorial representation from across the people in the Seanad.
    To have their expertise on hand, for people not having to manage a constituency and get re-elected and to have a different voice on committees, where the real work gets done.
    More and more the Seanad is being filled with people who have more modern and inclusive voices but there are some of the old school still there. And there always will be as they are representative of some people.

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    Sep 10th 2024, 12:48 PM

    @Gary Kearney: Well Said!

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    Sep 10th 2024, 8:10 PM

    Very elitist system !! Surely every citizen of Ireland, regardless of whether they have a degree or not, should be able to vote on who sits in the seanad.

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    Sep 10th 2024, 2:28 PM

    So our Taoiseach wouldn’t be allowed to vote

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    Sep 11th 2024, 12:11 AM

    All irish citizens over 18 should have a vote. A new government should be allowed to appoint 11 senators. It is UNDEMOCRATIC.

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